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Comment by londons_explore

1 year ago

I do notice that a lot of enemies of the state seem to use poorly secured platforms. Everything from Hamas using pagers to widespread use of unencrypted telegram groups and discord, and the ANOM sting with a non-e2e app.

Yet platforms with apparently secure e2e messaging (ie. WhatsApp) never seem to be used by criminals.

I wonder if this is just selection bias in the criminals caught, or if there is some forcing factor persuading criminals to make poor security choices.

> Yet platforms with apparently secure e2e messaging (ie. WhatsApp)

Do you have the keys to your WhatsApp messages ? Are you sure that they only reach their intended recipient ?

  • There are various third party re-implementations of the whatsapp client. It uses the opensource signal protocol. And they certainly appear to keep the keys secret to the right people.

    It's always possible there is some secret command which makes the closed source client leak the keys, but I imagine an audit of the disassembly of the client side app would discover that.