Comment by Capricorn2481
10 months ago
Wow, what an uncharitable read. Are you aware of what that term means? He said it was not about literally shaming people, but showing what contributing to the kernel is like, and even clarified it wouldn't be for public consumption. It's a colloquialism for a resource where peers can learn from each other's mistakes. My high school Spanish class had a hall of shame.
It's a magnitude more professional than the extremely over the top and public emails that Linus shares, which HN jerks off over. I too would be burnt out if people were picking apart what I said so closely but clapping when Linus says "this code is retarded"
> He said it was not about literally shaming people
The original message I read (https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/208e1fc3-cfc3-4a26-98...) they quite explicitly said (verbatim): "If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does, because I'm out of ideas."
Yes I'm aware of that quote, which doesn't make sense to link with the original quote because his intentions with the "Hall of shame" are different from this quote.
This message brings up a lot of valid complaints about talented developers being stonewalled and you're honing in on one word that is not being used the way you think. Again, there are dozens of emails from Linus that are vastly more unprofessional than this.
> because his intentions with the "Hall of shame" are different from this quote.
Aha, I thought it was referring to the same "event"/context but it clearly didn't. Thank you for the correction.
As if he didn't read the comment about not wanting the cross-language code to spread like cancer in the most uncharitable way possible.
My complaint is not that this maintainer would be charitable in their reads or should stay on the project, but that they are unevenly being examined because they are not one of the greybeards.
If you don't want a maintainer, that's fine, but to claim it has anything to do with professionalism is dumb when this is seen as communication to admire.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linusrants/
"hall of shame" inherently means it's about literally shaming people. If that isn't what he meant, then he shouldn't have used those words.
> It's a magnitude more professional than the extremely over the top and public emails that Linus shares
Since when do two wrongs make a right? I think it's perfectly fair to say Linus hasn't shown the best leadership here. But that doesn't excuse Marcan's behavior.