I'd love to have those answers too but it seems like DOGE doesn't care about transparency as much as they claim to want that. Elon keeps touting open source and transparency but the transparency is only in the form of poorly researched, cherry picked tweets from him which are often false. I could actually get behind DOGE if they were properly publishing all the financials of the agencies that they're auditing and programs that they're cutting. Without that, it's completely unaccountable.
Who is the "they" you're talking about? Assuming you mean "the establishment executive branch agencies", it's not like you're getting that answer from Trump and Musk either.
We have no idea what they're actually cutting, whether that $100M would have gone to something genuinely useful, or if it was going to some wasteful project.
Well, we do sorta find out, when we hear about a single mother being unable to provide food for her children because she's capriciously and arbitrarily lost her SNAP benefits.
DOGE is a train wreck, and like in any train wreck, a lot of innocent people get hurt, and no one knows what's going on in the midst of the chaos.
I agree with you, but I feel like this argument is kind of lost in a place like HN where even if the $100 million was going to ensure that orphans got warm beds and enough vitamins, someone would come along and say "yeah but why is that the government's job?" and ignore the point that, well, if you want to debate what is and isn't the government's job, you should probably do that in such a way that doesn't disrupt the lives of people who were accepting legally distributed aid.
They could've done the advisory role investigating and proposing improvements with a normal review process as promised instead of just going in there and being a bull in every china shop smashing things up regardless of whether or not it's useful.
Instead, you're getting to debate whether or not something was a good idea after it was already destroyed.
If you believe the system is fundamentally broken, and has become an instrument graft to funnel taxpayer dollars to DC bureaucrats, NGOs, special interests, political allies, propagandistic media, etc., that would be a much less effective way to fix it.
I realize many people don’t believe this, and believe instead that government corruption and waste in the US is non-existent or acceptably low, and we shouldn’t rock the boat.
But if they don’t believe that, their actions make sense.
HUD is Housing and urban development. So probably something to do with building low income housing and other kinds of city planning.
I saw low income becsuse 100m is pennies for housing. You'll probably get a few neighborhoods if it's brand new housing.
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I'd love to have those answers too but it seems like DOGE doesn't care about transparency as much as they claim to want that. Elon keeps touting open source and transparency but the transparency is only in the form of poorly researched, cherry picked tweets from him which are often false. I could actually get behind DOGE if they were properly publishing all the financials of the agencies that they're auditing and programs that they're cutting. Without that, it's completely unaccountable.
Did you know there's a website where they're documenting everything? https://doge.gov/
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Who is the "they" you're talking about? Assuming you mean "the establishment executive branch agencies", it's not like you're getting that answer from Trump and Musk either.
We have no idea what they're actually cutting, whether that $100M would have gone to something genuinely useful, or if it was going to some wasteful project.
Well, we do sorta find out, when we hear about a single mother being unable to provide food for her children because she's capriciously and arbitrarily lost her SNAP benefits.
DOGE is a train wreck, and like in any train wreck, a lot of innocent people get hurt, and no one knows what's going on in the midst of the chaos.
I agree with you, but I feel like this argument is kind of lost in a place like HN where even if the $100 million was going to ensure that orphans got warm beds and enough vitamins, someone would come along and say "yeah but why is that the government's job?" and ignore the point that, well, if you want to debate what is and isn't the government's job, you should probably do that in such a way that doesn't disrupt the lives of people who were accepting legally distributed aid.
They could've done the advisory role investigating and proposing improvements with a normal review process as promised instead of just going in there and being a bull in every china shop smashing things up regardless of whether or not it's useful.
Instead, you're getting to debate whether or not something was a good idea after it was already destroyed.
If you believe the system is fundamentally broken, and has become an instrument graft to funnel taxpayer dollars to DC bureaucrats, NGOs, special interests, political allies, propagandistic media, etc., that would be a much less effective way to fix it.
I realize many people don’t believe this, and believe instead that government corruption and waste in the US is non-existent or acceptably low, and we shouldn’t rock the boat.
But if they don’t believe that, their actions make sense.
Oh, have Doge actually provided anything of substance of where the money is going?
The government does: https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/CFO/documents/2024-Budget-i...
I guess he got flagged as I was replying, but there's his transparency. The government isn't a private corporation.
As you mentioned DOGE is looping some holes to not disclose their budget nor staff. That's not how the government works.
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