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Comment by nicce

6 days ago

People have only that much power we give to them. If everyone stops using Twitter/X, it is nothing. Nobody buys Teslas - it is nothing. The list goes on since his # in wealthy ranks defines his position. Just make it drop.

Xitter is the least of the issues considering his tie to China and Russia and the all-you-can-eat buffet happening right now in the US government.

  • Flood the zone. Propose ethinc cleansing and sell Ukraine to Russia and manipulate the German elections and censor twitter and cut usaid and pass inane stuff about transgenders. All in the space of a week. How can you even process what's happening, let alone resist it?

    • You pick a line where you have some degree of control, and you stay focussed on it.

      Coordination should not be about "hey, let's all make a lot of noise about his last move", because you're overwhelmed. It's about making sure not too many people are working on the same line.

      You pick a line. One where you can act.

      You get one executive order rescinded. Someone else work on another one. You legislate one doggy doger at a time. You focus like crazy. (First action to focus is, of course, to delete your Twitter account.)

      You make noise about all the times where you win, and they loose.

      In two years, you get the voters out.

      If you don't have any other control then "not playing their game, and wait", that's at least something. There's probably a food bank close to your place. Keep the lights on there.

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  • All the ties and US government position is based on his money and influence in platforms.

There really should be a bigger campaign for everyone to sell their Tesla shares. As you said, take away his money and he goes away.

  • Sell them to whom? If I had a Tesla and sold it to you, there are still the same number of people driving one.

    I’m sympathetic to Tesla owners who've had their car for a while. If Akio Toyoda turned out to be a bastard, I wouldn't buy another new Toyota, but I’d continue to drive our current one until the wheels fall off. Same with Teslas. It's unreasonable to ask someone to get rid of their working, paid-for family transport. We can't just scrap all of them.

    But. Anyone driving an Incel Camino just bought the thing, and I will continue pointing at them and laughing.

    • Only the initial purchase matters for buying the cars from the point of Musk and Tesla's value. I think the revenue for repairing the cars during their lifetime does not bring that much money back to the Tesla.

      So ideally, we want to reduce the purchases of new Teslas and bring the stock down.

    • addandsubtract wrote "sell their Tesla shares", not "sell their Teslas".

      Even nicce's parent comment only concerned buying new Teslas.

  • I mean people should do that anyway, because when that stock takes a tumble it's going to shed value incredibly fast.

    It's been overvalued before, and now it's cruising on "how good will the government corruption money be". Needless to say, you can look at how things worked out in Russia for who gets paid, and how much that winds up being worth in the end.

The scary part is that most US citizens seem to support Mump. I think Trump has never been that high in popularity, right?

> Nobody buys Teslas - it is nothing

The pussyfooting around this from some countries is genuinely surprising. Like, how are the Germans of all people confused about whether the oligarch courting their neo Nazis is a threat to their national security?

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    • Unfortunately this isn’t quite correct. They’re not neonazis but they are fascists, they don’t believe in liberal democracy and hold extremist (as in, objectively far right) views on women’s rights, Judaism, Islam and LBGT issues.

      AfD are also anti-science proponents of climate change denial, and are quite happy to hold opposing views from one day to the next.

      By all means ask me for receipts

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    • Other parties in many countries don’t seem to understand that if they try to solve the immigration issues more seriously - many right-wing parties would disappear as they have nothing else.

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