Comment by crooked-v
1 year ago
> and if it goes beyond the scope of executive powers, it will be curtailed or shut down.
The position of the executive order is that only the President can interpret laws, including executive orders about interpreting laws.
That is to say, if the courts try to stop it, Trump may try to say "the courts don't have that power" and order the DoJ and/or military to block anything they do.
That is not what the EO says. You’ve been misled by a Reddit post.
It seems extremely straightforward to me.
> The President and the Attorney General, subject to the President’s supervision and control, shall provide authoritative interpretations of law for the executive branch.
"The executive branch" includes the DoJ and the United States Marshals Service, who do all the actual boots-on-the-ground work for the judiciary.
This is an obvious lead in to "the President's interpretation is that the courts can go screw themselves", at which point the deciding factor becomes entirely whether law enforcement listens to the courts or listens to the bosses who pay them.
This EO has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the courts or their interpretation of the law.
This is entirely focused on aligning the executive branch, that’s it. This is the kind of confusion that comes with trusting a Reddit post instead of getting your news from a reputable source.
Here, read this before going any further: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/trump-order-power-i...
It’s bad because it’s an attempt at removing independence from certain independent organizations such as the SEC and the Federal Reserve, but it is not about claiming all legal authority rests with the executive. It will fail as an EO because the executive can’t violate the law, which has set out the independent nature of these organizations.
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>Trump may try to say "the courts don't have that power" and order the DoJ and/or military to block anything they do.
Perhaps we should refrain from calling the US a de facto dictatorship until that point then?
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> The exact same rhetoric was used from 2016 to 2020, even before Trump was elected the first time.
Awesome false equivalence, exaggeration, and straight disinformation, considering that 60%-70% of Republican respondents in multiple surveys believed that Trump was the real winner of the 2020 election [1].
> Two Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research polls conducted in February and July 2021 found that two-thirds of Republican respondents believe Biden was illegitimately elected in 2020.
> A January 2021 Morning Consult survey of 1,990 registered voters nationwide showed 65% responded that they believe the 2020 election was "free and fair." But when those results were broken down by party affiliation, only one-third of Republicans were in agreement with that statement. When asked what sources helped lead them to believe the election was fraudulent, a majority of Republicans cited former President Donald Trump, who has repeatedly claimed without evidence that his loss was not legitimate.
The 60%-70% figure persisted as late as June 2022 [2].
> With remarkable consistency, a scant one-quarter of Republican voters tell pollsters that Biden won legitimately. That was the view they shared in the spring of 2021, and the fraction remains about the same today.
> Agree that Biden was legitimately elected
> Poll Date All Democrat Republican Independent
> Economist/YouGov Jun. 1, 2022 60% 90% 25% 57%
Both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris conceded defeat in a day, Trump has been complaining about the 2020 election for years (still does), and Trump voters prepared for months to avoid certifying the 2024 results if they were to turn out badly for Trump [3]. Trump also attempted a fake electors plot to overturn the 2020 election [4].
[1] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/02/viral-imag...
[2] https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jun/14/most-republic...
[3] https://www.propublica.org/article/2024-election-certificati...
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot