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Comment by averageRoyalty

4 months ago

> Trump winning the election wasn't necessarily because he was "objectively wanted".

Isn't that exactly what the popular vote is though? Maybe people weren't passionate about it, but my loose understanding of the US popular vote is it's quite direct unlike preferential voting, so the people who chose him actively chose _him_.

I'm not saying there aren't regrets, but it seems to me defintively that the majority of voters selected him as the president they wanted.

Well, you said it's "odd" if people don't trust Trump, since they voted him in. I'm saying that plenty of votes may have been because they trusted Biden even less. In a 2-party system it's difficult to distinguish between "I want A" and "I really don't want B".

  • That's fair. I know most Western countries are effectively 2 party, but the US does seem more so than others. Regardless, he is who was picked by a very large number of people in a fair, democratic election.

    • US, UK, Canada, and Australia, certainly. But almost all European countries are multi-party. I suppose there's an argument that some voting systems are "more democratic" than others, in the sense that they allow/incentivise individuals to express a more accurate picture of their desires via their vote.