I know plenty of non-technical users who still dislike Java, because its usage was quite visible in the past (you gotta install JVM) and lots of desktop apps made with were horrible.
My father for example, as it was the tech chosen by his previous bank.
Electron is way sneakier, so people just complain about Teams or something like that.
Nowadays users aren’t expected to install the vm. Desktop apps now jlink a vm and it’s like any other application. I’ve even seen the trimmed vm size get down to 30-50mb.
Unfortunately you still get developers who don’t set the correct memory settings and then it ends up eating 25% of a users available ram.
I strongly agree with this sentiment. And I realize that we might not be the representative of the typical user, but nonetheless, I think these things definitely matter for some subset of users.
I know plenty of non-technical users who still dislike Java, because its usage was quite visible in the past (you gotta install JVM) and lots of desktop apps made with were horrible.
My father for example, as it was the tech chosen by his previous bank.
Electron is way sneakier, so people just complain about Teams or something like that.
Nowadays users aren’t expected to install the vm. Desktop apps now jlink a vm and it’s like any other application. I’ve even seen the trimmed vm size get down to 30-50mb.
Unfortunately you still get developers who don’t set the correct memory settings and then it ends up eating 25% of a users available ram.
I strongly agree with this sentiment. And I realize that we might not be the representative of the typical user, but nonetheless, I think these things definitely matter for some subset of users.