Comment by netdevphoenix
9 months ago
I don't understand why Cloudflare allowed itself to be use like this and is heading to court instead of just refusing to accept LaLiga's requests. They could just request them to provide appropriate evidence and make them pay for the time Cloudflare staff would need to review the evidence
Cloudflare isn't in a position to accept or decline LaLiga's requests; LaLiga, supported by a ridiculous court order, is forcing ISPs to block Cloudflare IP addresses.
Cloudflare absolutely is in a position to take down domains they're hosting on those IPs while keeping other domains sharing the same IP up.
I think that's probably what they'll be doing in the end, so it's interesting to observe that they haven't done so already. Do they maybe have at least an internal domain reputation system so that long-time customers mostly share IPs with other long-time customers and are less likely to get caught in the crossfire?
> Cloudflare absolutely is in a position to take down domains they're hosting on those IPs while keeping other domains sharing the same IP up.
They could. On the other hand, why should they? I would much rather see them fight this court order and make it stop across the board.
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Ok, this explains why Cloudflare is doing this. So the issue seems to be with the court order then. Is this then yet another case of court order makers not understanding the technological consequences of the court order they made?
Or more likely not caring, or not being informed because the plaintiff doesn't care about collateral damage.
I suspect that LaLiga lawyers and lawyer-techs aren't perhaps the most technical so when they learned to figure out IP's they made it their go-to way of working without even considering that they might need to contact CF (or Github that also seems blocked in Spain).
Finding abuse contacts is actually a M:N problem for the entire industry since we skimped on IPv6 (Had we gone to IPv6 providers like CF could've just assigned customers their own IP's and third-party fallout would've been minimal).
LaLiga went directly to the courts, according to Cloudflare.
Well, I'm guessing here but I assume pirates are happy to stand up a new website for every match. And LaLiga wants the sites taken down within the ~90 minute duration of the game, otherwise what's the point?