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Comment by derefr

4 months ago

> The only way this works is to have a list of banned talking points from a government agency.

How so? The "obvious" solution to me, from the perspective of a politician, would be to 1. require online identity verification for signup to any forum hosted in your country, and then 2. using that information, only allow people who are citizens of your country to register.

(You know, like in China.)

That won't stop foreign disinformation. They'll just pay some local to say it.

And China's system doesn't stop disinformation; it promotes disinformation. It it designed to make sure that only China-sponsored disinformation is available. If you want a system for that it is a solved problem; it just isn't a good idea.

  • Well, yes, but — again, from the perspective of a politician — if foreign agent provocateurs are forced to rely on locals to spread their messages, then you can just arrest those locals. Unlike the foreigners, the locals are under your jurisdiction. This creates a chilling effect against accepting money from foreigners to repeat those foreigners' messages.

    And to be clear, "making sure that only [legislative jurisdiction]-sponsored disinformation is available" is almost always the whole point of laws like this — and what I was assuming the UK was going for here. No state wants to prevent the spread of their own propaganda; they want state propaganda to be the only legal propaganda.

    Remember that your phrasing I was responding to here is "the only way this works is[...]". I think what the UK is doing here can work very well indeed to achieve their goals — it's just a question of what those goals are. Which, I think, is where we differ; I may have a far more cynical view of those goals than you.