Comment by ziddoap
1 year ago
>scam sites like amazon.com
Since when is Amazon a scam site?
I don't like em' either, but hyperbole doesn't help.
For what it's worth, it can be removed in about 4 seconds.
1 year ago
>scam sites like amazon.com
Since when is Amazon a scam site?
I don't like em' either, but hyperbole doesn't help.
For what it's worth, it can be removed in about 4 seconds.
Considering how hard it is to avoid dodgy counterfeit merchandise in certain product categories, that seems like an apt description.
https://www.onlyamazingseller.com/us.html
I’m not clear on how this solves the problem. Counterfeits can be hard to detect. Counterfeit food, toiletries, and electronics can poison you or start a fire. And my redress is a generous return policy?
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I've still received counterfeits that were sold and shipped by amazon.
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> For what it's worth, it can be removed in about 4 seconds.
Sure, but why should anyone have to?
Look, I hate ads as much as the next person.
But Firefox also needs to generate money somehow, right? A small advert to amazon/hotels/whatever that can be removed basically permanently with a small change in the settings is about the best balance I can think of.
If you donate to Mozilla, I have more sympathy for you. Perhaps they could make it so that if you have a Firefox account linked to a donation that they remove this, or something.
I have struggled to find methods as an individual to donate to Firefox.
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> But Firefox also needs to generate money somehow, right?
WHY? They get hundreds of millions a year to place Google as the default search engine. That’s a shit ton of money. At that level they could even put some away every year for an endowment. Why does a nonprofit need to generate even more money by violating its users?
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Firefox is supposedly owned by a nonprofit organization that's expected to act in the user's interest.
Nonprofits are supposed to raise funds from donations and grants, not via enshittification for the primary subject of their mission.
The problem is that besides being a supposed nonprofit (Mozilla foundation), the same people also want to larp as a sillicon valley tech business (Mozzilla corp which largely shares leadership with the org) with insanely high saleries funded anti-user bullshit.
It's hardly hyperbole at this point:
- Letting sellers replace listings with completely different products while keeping the ratings.
- Not providing any way to filter dodgy chinese sellers that spam search results with duplicates of the same cheap shit.
- Comingling inventory so that even if you take care to select a trustworthy seller you might get stuff from a dodgy one.
And no, being able to remove the scam ads is not good enough.
Amazon has been a scam site for years.
Counterfeit products sold by Amazon.
Most reviews are purchased.
Stolen product pages.
Product pages where the reviews are for totally different products
If you report any of these things to Amazon, they do nothing about it.
Scam site was probably not very precise.
They have enshittified, and they don't have a quality anti-abuse team so many items, while not directly fraudulent are fraud-u-lish.
Commingled inventory means you can't expect the item you get to be the item you ordered because there is no supply chain integrity.
Honestly, after typing that out, I don't think scam was as wrong as it first seemed. I frequently feel deceived when using amazon.
Amazon doesn't even particularly care whether the items they sell are even legal in the country where they sell them.
FRS radios for example. Fine in the USA, not fine in Australia where those frequencies are used for public safety radio systems, and where they are illegal to possess because they don't comply with the applicable EMC standards.
It's a bit off topic I guess, but I actually see that as a fringe benefit as opposed to a drawback. Other than some exceptional edge cases I'm opposed to item possession itself being illegal - it all comes down to usage. (To be clear, I'm not opposed to strict ID recording requirements in some not-quite-as-exceptional edge cases.)
Honestly, I regard that as a plus.
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That is debatable if that is hyperbole but I might be moving the discussion a bit too much off topic so ye maybe more neutral language would have been preferable.