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Comment by chmod775

1 year ago

No, they cannot.

You're replying to a comment where I've broken the sentence down into smaller parts. It's the best I can do.

How is "to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content" different from "to do anything we want with it"?

  • My guess is the first phrase is lawyer-brain for "we send the words you typed in the search bar to the search engine for you."

    (Yes, they need your express permission to do that, because copyright law is really fucking dumb and makes absolutely no sense if you're approaching it from engineer-brain.)

  • > navigate, experience, and interact with online content

    I can do all of those things just fine without Mozilla also experiencing my online content.

  • My browser sent a request that starts with “POST” in order to tell this website to create this comment but it includes the words that I wrote and therefore “own” as far as copyright is concerned. Mozilla requests a license to send such data to websites in similar contexts as, in this case, I “indicate” by clicking the “reply” button.

    Other uses of that data are not licensed. For example, using that data in an unrelated request they send to themselves, not indicated by clicking reply, is not licensed.

    • Mozilla isn't sending that data. You're sending that data.

      These terms are common on webapps because, well, they're webapps. You send your data to the webapp and they store it on their own servers.

      Web apps, operated by individuals or organisations, are very different to local apps which are operated by you. Just because the Firefox app is running on your device doesn't mean that Mozilla is operating it.

      By granting Mozilla the right to access and use your data, you're agreeing to give them data which they never had previously - instead of just sending the POST to xyz.com you're now sending it to Mozilla as well who can do whatever they like with it, sell it to ad networks, whatever.