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Comment by chmod775

1 year ago

> First, you used Firefox and therefore enabled the clause.

I believe your confusion stems from a misreading of "as you indicate with your use of Firefox". You're reading it like "by using Firefox, you indicate".

Contemplate the difference between

"The car is allowed to move as you indicate with the controls."

versus

"By using the controls, you indicate the car is allowed to move."

The former explicitly only allows the car to realize your intent, whereas the latter gives the car license to do whatever it pleases.

You have now edited your comment at least 3 times. I find it hard to take this argument seriously, and indeed struggle to understand how it isn't trolling. At best this language is ambiguous; at worst it is misleading. It certainly ignores the core point of my comment, which is to construct hypothetical actions by Mozilla that would NOT be permitted by the clause. I strongly feel that your purpose in defending Mozilla here would be better served by providing those examples.

  • > You have now edited your comment at least 3 times.

    Yes. I reworked the example a few times. I think the third rewrite made it pretty clear.

    > It certainly ignores the core point of my comment, which is to construct hypothetical actions by Mozilla that would NOT be permitted by the clause.

    The hypothetical action you gave is not permitted, because the user would not have indicated they wanted Mozilla to do that. Firefox/Mozilla is only allowed to use your data as indicated by you.

    • The phrase is "...as you indicate with your use of Firefox"! It is NOT "...as you indicate with your Firefox user preferences." Using Firefox is what indicates your agreement, similar to how using your credit card indicates your agreement with the card terms. I take it back - the meaning is not ambiguous at all.

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Ok, so you read it to say that at some later point they will ask, and that point the language will matter.

What was the purpose of mentioning it now? And why write in such an ambiguous way that it could be interpreted otherwise? And that still doesn’t give me confidence about what they will do at a later time. I don’t like it at all, these are used car dealership tactics.