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Comment by anonymous_user9

1 year ago

Sometimes there actually is a wolf, though.

MAGA is a right-wing political movement that:

-seeks to return the nation to a mythical superior past, by

-empowering an extraordinary leader who represents the will of the people, in order to

-expel inferior/unworthy ethnicities, and

-expunge left/“Marxist” influences from art and culture.

These are all characteristics of Fascism specifically, not the authoritarian actions that people casually call fascist.

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_heimdall  1 year ago

> expel inferior/unworthy ethnicities

Is this happening? Or a stated goal?

I know they're deporting people who aren't here legally (that's a whole other debate), but I'm not aware of them actively targeting anyone based on race of ethnicity regardless of their legal status.

milesrout  1 year ago

The boy who cried wolf is only a meaningful story because he is eventually eaten by a wolf.

However, your third point is a bit breathless. They aren't expelling anyone based on ethnicity. They want to deport illegal aliens. It isn't their fault so many of those aliens are from one country. The Nazis were expelling and killing Jews that had been in Europe for centuries lawfully. And, yknow, the whole killing them thing! The human experiments. The slave labour camps.

You are forgetting that fascist regimes go to war with their neighbours for territory, ignore the law, suspend democracy and have secret police to enforce political orthodoxy. Trump is an isolationist and he hasn't done any of the rest, yet at least.

Also don't forget that for all the stick Trump gets about immigration, all the Democratic presidents I can remember claim that they want to control the border too, and claim they can do so better. Hardly illustrative of fascism...

  • TheLegace  1 year ago

    Yes, ask any Canadian how they feel about their sovereignty right now. Let me know how the Riviera in Gaza is going to work out and enjoy that vacation in the Gulf of America. Do you remember when Solemeni got assassinated. I also hope your not what he calls "vermin" and end up in Guantanamo Bay. Just because they're so dumb and incompetent and incapable of accomplishing their goals(at this moment) doesn't make a spade a spade. Honestly I am not even surprised by this anymore your post describes exactly why fascism takes root, just endless justification of authoritarianism.

    • milesrout  1 year ago

      There is no threat towards Canadian sovereignty obviously. The Riviera in Gaza would be a lot better than the current situation in which its biggest industry is exporting rockets into Israel. Also not territorial expansion as Gaza isn't a neighbour. Imperialism? Yes. But look at the world. It functioned much better in most places when imperial powers controlled more of it. That isn't an excuse for them to invade each other, which never ended well. Also he is just using it as a negotiating tactic with Jordan and Egypt obviously.

      Changing the name of some water isn't territorial expansion or authoritarianism.

      Solemeni was a terrorist. A dead terrorist is a good terrorist. If you attack a sovereign country then you should expect to be targeted. Fuck around? Find out.

      Obama closed Gitmo. He promised to, remember, so he must have. And he withdrew from Afghanistan, remember? He said so in between claiming that marriage was only between a man and a woman. What a hero of the left.

      Feel free to tell me I am wrong when I actually am instead of just when your imagination runs wild and you see "authoritarianism" in your cereal. Killing terrorists is authoritarianism lol. And drone striking children isn't?

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  • 20after4  1 year ago

    What about threatening to annex Canada and Greenland, eliminating birthright citizenship or expanding the Guantanamo Bay concentration camp?