← Back to context Comment by ploum 4 months ago [flagged] 4 comments ploum Reply VertanaNinjai 4 months ago I’m not sure where you’re pulling “backdoored” from, but if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonable that end users expect a private device. maqp 4 months ago There's probably not a backdoor in the device. At least I haven't seen any news about that. But.Apple has been an NSA PRISM-partner since 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM#/media/File:Prism_slide_...Also, apparently they had 100% success rate installing malware on the devices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/the-nsa-rep...It's been close to 12 years since Snowden. Who knows how the defense has improved. Who knows how the offense has improved. johnisgood 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableNot really. ploum 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableSo they are people reading hackernews who really think that marketing is honest and good faith?Yes, the "care" about our privacy. That’s what they wrote. It must be true then…
VertanaNinjai 4 months ago I’m not sure where you’re pulling “backdoored” from, but if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonable that end users expect a private device. maqp 4 months ago There's probably not a backdoor in the device. At least I haven't seen any news about that. But.Apple has been an NSA PRISM-partner since 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM#/media/File:Prism_slide_...Also, apparently they had 100% success rate installing malware on the devices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/the-nsa-rep...It's been close to 12 years since Snowden. Who knows how the defense has improved. Who knows how the offense has improved. johnisgood 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableNot really. ploum 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableSo they are people reading hackernews who really think that marketing is honest and good faith?Yes, the "care" about our privacy. That’s what they wrote. It must be true then…
maqp 4 months ago There's probably not a backdoor in the device. At least I haven't seen any news about that. But.Apple has been an NSA PRISM-partner since 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM#/media/File:Prism_slide_...Also, apparently they had 100% success rate installing malware on the devices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/the-nsa-rep...It's been close to 12 years since Snowden. Who knows how the defense has improved. Who knows how the offense has improved.
johnisgood 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableNot really. ploum 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableSo they are people reading hackernews who really think that marketing is honest and good faith?Yes, the "care" about our privacy. That’s what they wrote. It must be true then…
ploum 4 months ago > if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonableSo they are people reading hackernews who really think that marketing is honest and good faith?Yes, the "care" about our privacy. That’s what they wrote. It must be true then…
I’m not sure where you’re pulling “backdoored” from, but if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonable that end users expect a private device.
There's probably not a backdoor in the device. At least I haven't seen any news about that. But.
Apple has been an NSA PRISM-partner since 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM#/media/File:Prism_slide_...
Also, apparently they had 100% success rate installing malware on the devices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/the-nsa-rep...
It's been close to 12 years since Snowden. Who knows how the defense has improved. Who knows how the offense has improved.
> if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonable
Not really.
> if Apple markets their devices as private then it seems reasonable
So they are people reading hackernews who really think that marketing is honest and good faith?
Yes, the "care" about our privacy. That’s what they wrote. It must be true then…