Comment by perching_aix
1 month ago
I don't understand why people are so hung up on the plastic caps thing. On the milk cartons we have, I outright prefer the new designs even.
On that note, may I ask if there's any point to your comment other than to incite people?
I always find the caps hate so funny too. I mean it's not something that the world truly needed but I don't have a problem with it and it comes in quite handy when drinking water while driving
But why did they need to spend taxpayer time and money to fuck with something that wasn't broken? Wouldn't it be better to spend that taxpayer time and money of issues of graver importance.
What taxpayer time and money. The change request is literally reinforcing one plastic tab.
If you want to hyperbole at least find a valid thing.
I have absolutely no idea how much the legislation has cost but the actual implementation is done by each manufacturer individually so that is not taxpayer money, and I haven't noticed containers become more expensive either. So this sounds like a bit of a made up argument to me
I'd argue that the fully removable cap is very slightly broken, from experience.
Do they need to do anything? Why they felt (supposedly) compelled to is a different question, and I'm sure if you research it you'll find your answer.
Because it's collective punishment. Why should I have to put up with inferior bottle caps that get in the way and are more prone to leaking than traditional bottle caps just because some other people misused them? The correct solution is enforcing anti-littering laws.
I'm all for a stronger enforcement of anti-littering laws, but I'm just as stumped about how exactly would that be implemented, what exactly would need to change, and how much would those changes cost compared to just requiring companies to make the caps be this way.
As for the "collective punishment", while I can definitely appreciate that some of the new caps can be fussy to use, I'd hope you can also appreciate that calling them a "punishment" is very much a subjective characterization, and that opinions do vary. I can't stand the cap on the cocoa milk cartons I buy, but the ones on the regular cow milk cartons are excellent, and work way better than what was on them before. I also generally think that the caps that are fussy to use are a nuisance at best, and that since there have been caps that annoyed me even before this change in legislation, there's no reasonable cause for me to be upset at this specifically.
I don't know. I was in Switzerland once and saw someone litter in a park near a bunch of school children on some sort of field trip. The police were interrogating the individual within ~5 minutes. It seems like it's possible in certain places in Europe and it's certainly possible in Singapore.
How do you suggest we enforce anti-littering laws?
I've heard that Singapore manages to do it. Copy whatever they do. It doesn't need to be 100% effective, because it's easy to rip the caps off the new bottles making them not 100% effective either.
cane people you find littering, like they do in Singapore.
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The amount of random plastic bottle caps in nature proofs that you can not be trusted to screw the cap back on.
And if anything the limit on vacuums forced them to innovate. My Vacuum today is far more effective than my 2000 watt vacuum was in the past.
> The union assumed I'm too stupid (...)
I don't think the union thinks about you specifically.
> needing to vacuum the same area more times over to achieve the same cleanliness resulting in even more power used than before
While this makes intuitive sense to me, is this what actually happens though?
> Or just like the EUs promotion for (...)
Remind me, why are you gish-galloping to other random things you find to be crappy about the EU? Again, is there any other point to your comments than to incite?