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Comment by vonneumannstan

24 days ago

For anyone who voted for Trump because of anti-woke backlash or whatever is this also acceptable? We're tearing any credibility we have left as a nation to shreds in that name of what exactly?

Liberals are too aggressive and disrespectful pushing for vaccines, it is their fault. Conservatives are too independent minded to accept vaccines in that situation.

I literally read that last week about unvaccinated Texans.

  • I know this has been pointed out many times, but it's really hard not to when it's so un-ignorable: The size of the gap in standards between liberals and conservatives regarding "disrespectful" behavior, especially taking context into account, is really, truly amazing.

  • I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not...

    • I was not sarcastic. I really read that. It was in a normal serious journal when I googled about measles. I do not recall which one exactly it was, but the claims stayed with me. Both the knee jerk blame the liberals for what conservatives do and knee jerked "Texas conservatives are independently minded" as soft defense. There was about zero independent thinking involved (anti-vaccers just follow what their chosen authorities tell them) and it was the only mention of liberals in the article.

      I find the claim absurd, but it was made in all seriousness.

    • It is sarcastic in that the parent is quoting/paraphrasing somebody else (they clarify this in the second paragraph).

Can we please stop calling "bigoted views against anyone not WASP, and a refusal to acknowledge current and historical oppression of anyone not WASP" "anti-woke"?

It's like "PC" ("I hate the gays and/or blacks and/or jews and I'm annoyed I can't just be open about that without someone calling me a bigot"), "pro-life" ("I refuse to allow a woman to make decisions about her own body and insist on trying to legislate my extremist religious views"), and so on.

I always thought "PC" was a funny term given the people using it are the most likely to be trying to tell everyone else what can/can't be taught in schools, what people can/can't publish, what people can/can't read in their library, etc.

The state and medical establishment already shredded their own credibility when they sent cops after people for going to the beach alone, and then sent out a proclamation that BLM protests were more important than the pandemic. Nevermind the intentional suppression of the lab leak theory and the smearing of anyone who supported it as a conspiracy theorist, including pressuring tech giants to silence and censor anyone who voiced skepticism or dissent.

These are the hills the state and medical establishment chose to murder their own credibility on, they've been dead for years now.

  • At that time it wasn’t clear where and vow the infection spreads.

    So putting other people’s life at risk while the hospital staff works still exhaustion to keep the already infected alive is a egomaniac move.

  • Yeah, no, these are pure excuses and rationalizations. And you know it. If you actually was preoccupied over covid, your only complain would not be anti racists protests - it would be overall excess deaths in read states.

    When the only situation in which covid matter is the one where you can use it as a shield for anti-anti-racist stance while you are against vaccinations (which stopped the whole covid issue) and against any measure that cant be used for your favorite political cause ... then you are just making excuses.

    • Who the fuck ever said I was against vaccinations? I'm simply arguing that the governments and all of the health institutions of the western world burned their own credibility to ash in one glorious bonfire that they started themselves.