Comment by LPisGood
5 days ago
>”enterprise sales process”
I’m sorry, is Oracle known to be some super sleazy sales org that plys enterprise decision makers with strippers and cocktails, and drugs?
5 days ago
>”enterprise sales process”
I’m sorry, is Oracle known to be some super sleazy sales org that plys enterprise decision makers with strippers and cocktails, and drugs?
I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there.
Yes. Oracle is absolutely the tech vendor that's going to be dropped on the engineering team with zero input and no consideration for whether it fits the problems they have, after your CTO spends a a few days on the golf course and high end steak restaurants and, depending on how much money their enterprise sales team thinks they have, either high class escorts or sleazy strip joints. Given how common that story (or one very like it) is, I'm close to 100% certain those trips also include discreet photographers and hotel rooms wired with 4k video recording.
> I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there.
Neither, but perhaps worse: I am young.
Are there any compilations of apocryphal stories of the events you described? It sounds too fantastic to be real.
Yes that sort of stuff happens all the time in the business side of things. There’s a reason it’s a trope.
Not to every company per se but it’s been commonplace well probably for as long as business itself has been.
Just an example - nothing that happened in wolf of wall street was original to them - just the getting famous for being caught part. And that was only a few decades ago.
The defense and finance industries are famous for that sort of thing. I’m sure it’s pervasive elsewhere too.
There’s nothing special about software or tech or clouds that makes schmoozing impossible.
It would be like people compiling stories of eating a sandwich. No one is doing it because of how unremarkable and common it is.
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You sound like Fortune 500 CTO material young man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Corporation#Controversi...
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> [...] I'm close to 100% certain those trips also include discreet photographers and hotel rooms wired with 4k video recording.
Luckily, AI is about to make that particular tactic ineffective:
When you can deepfake any video evidence, the original becomes useless.
This is legitimately the first time I have ever seen it brought up too! I’ve never heard about this side of them.
Universally hated, but the legal aspects alone are hateworthy.