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Comment by voxl

8 days ago

In my friend group it's clear as day: either you voted to kill and deport other people in the friend group or you didn't. Pretty obvious the group would like to know if you're secretly interested in their demise.

If you’re sure you already know what other people think, I guess there’s not much point in asking them their opinions? You’re not going to listen to their answers anyway.

All you really want to know is what category to put them in.

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    • > Voting for Donald Trump is unarguably an evil action in my book.

      I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but I'll bite.

      I didn't vote for the guy, don't like the guy, never have.

      Trying to understand _why_ people _did_ vote for him is much more important than declaring half the country (really like 30-35% of the country, more people didn't vote than did vote for a specific candidate) evil.

      If we need to assign blame, Biden should have dropped out long before he did so the democrats could have found their next Obama, or something.

      Or maybe, just maybe, people were desperate for a change and they were manipulated into a false sense of illogical hope.

      The question is, why did they need hope? What was so wrong, in their mind, that we all ended up here?

      Or, just declare them evil and hold a useless sense of moral superiority. This solves nothing, but I suppose it makes you feel better.

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But I guess for prioritizing the happiness of the friend group, some amount of ignorance is needed if someone in the group is ultimately going to model the world on "they kill and deport or they don't" given enough information to make that declaration, and eventually a person on the other side is encountered?

I understand that some things can be more important than just having fun though, down to personal values.

"To be ignorant" sounds like a moral failing on its face, but I feel it is increasingly becoming required in some circumstances with the explosive amount of information available to subscribe to nowadays.

  • Keeping selfish assholes as friends is not a priority of mine.

    • I'm talking more about not bringing up politics to avoid giving too much information to people who will make up their own conclusions based on those facts and aren't amenable to change. And choosing not to bring up politics for the purpose of figuring out who out of the friend group is the selfish asshole.

The shamelessness with which some commenters openly display the exact aggressive tribal behavior discussed in the article should be studied.

See, this is the problem. People don’t vote for individual policies, they vote for candidates.

  • Not really. Some people love the candidates but I suspect a lot of us vote against the other side more than for a candidate.

  • correct, their vote says "I'm okay with everything this candidate says they'll do."

    You can't cherry pick policies from a candidate and pretend your vote is not culpable for all the harm it inflicts.