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Comment by Tade0

7 days ago

  - FW13 has no video output, except as a USB adapter

  - FW13 has no audio outputs, except as USB sound card

That was a conscious design decision, as you're supposed to use swappable expansion cards.

  Other things X60T has, but FW13 doesn't:
  - Fingerprint reader

https://frame.work/pl/en/products/fingerprint-reader-kit?v=F...

  - SD card slot

https://frame.work/pl/en/products/sd-expansion-card

> - FW13 has no audio outputs, except as USB sound card >That was a conscious design decision, as you're supposed to use swappable expansion cards.

Also, unless something has changed or I am misinterpreting what they are saying, the fw13 does have an audio output that is not an expansion card.

  • Indeed! I was not aware of that as I have the 16, which doesn't feature it.

    Community forum posts from 2021 suggest they sort of forgot to include this information initially.

    It so happens that the audio jack in my previous laptop started getting loose after four years, which was a first, as usually it was the USB ports which would go, so having it as an expansion card was a major selling point for me.

    This really is a device for people who tend to break things despite relatively light usage. I for one damaged the screen in every single laptop that I had.

    • As I said, I never saw the FW16 except in pictures and everything I know about it was from the net. I might be wrong about some of the things I wrote.

      So, does it really have a headphones jack or not?

      My X60T headphones jack only recently started to cause troubles after many many years of use, but it was an easy fix: drill 3 tiny holes in the connector casing and push a needle through each one to bend the contacts tighter.

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> - Fingerprint reader

My mistake.

> That was a conscious design decision, as you're supposed to use swappable expansion cards.

> - SD card slot

Like I said. The laptop itself is very basic (crippleware by Lenovo standards). You have to use USB ports for everything, there are only 3 usable, and also mechanically very weak, not to mention performance, heat inside a closed plastic case, cost, etc.

  • As a person who uses devices w/ Wacom EMR digitizers by preference, the Thinkpad X###T line is one I _really_ wanted to like, but the difficulty of getting a reasonable OS on one, with handwriting recognition, with manageable performance/thermal characteristics pushed me to the point that I gave up and moved on to a Asus Vivotab Note 8, and then a Toshiba Encore 2 Write 10 when it was offered.

    I keep telling myself I should try an X230T and Linux --- if there was a Framework device which supported Wacom EMR, I wouldn't have to. That said, my next major tech purchase is an rPi 5 and a Wacom Movink 13.