Comment by soulofmischief
14 days ago
Now you're getting it. Adamantly trying to focus on "eliminating poverty", when my original comment was about the morality of neoliberalism, is a straw man argument. I'm glad that after enough contemplation you have come to understand this.
So, if you'd like to address my original comment, I'm all ears, otherwise this discussion is a complete waste of time. Before you do that, though, it would be prudent to learn about what neoliberalism actually is, and why foreign intervention is directly related to it and your original premise. Once you do that, we'll be able to have a fruitful discussion.
An excerpt from The Divide:
> People commonly think of neoliberalism as an ideology that promotes totally free markets, where the state retreats from the scene and abandons all interventionist policies. But if we step back a bit, it becomes clear that the extension of neoliberalism has entailed powerful new forms of state intervention. The creation of a global 'free market' required not only violent coups and dictatorships backed by Western governments, but also the invention of a totalizing global bureaucracy – the World Bank, the IMF, the WTO and bilateral free-trade agreements – with reams of new laws, backed up by the military power of the United States
You DO believe in eliminating poverty, right?
You are fixated on a straw man, clearly too ignorant of the subject material to have a discussion on this.
I provided resources. Read them and get back to me, otherwise there is no reason to continue, since your aim seems to be controlling the narrative and not actually engaging in substantial discussion.
This doesn’t sound like you want to eliminate poverty?
You complain I brought up the straw man of poverty, but that's the entire point of neoliberalism: to make people wealthy. It's NOT to start wars or bring disease or famine or whatever. It's an economic system designed to bring about wealth, as demonstrated by neoliberal policies that removed poverty from much of the third world.
This is why I don’t trust socialist: I have never heard a socialist say “I want to eliminate poverty”. And in fact, they seem to take pride in being impoverished while being ashamed of any bit of wealth.
It’s Ok to have nice things. You DON’T have to be poor.
We don't care if people are rich. We are if they are poor, and we believe that's a problem.
And our track record of eliminating poverty around the world over the last 50 years through neoliberal free trade should be celebrated, not discouraged.
You're welcome.
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