Comment by emptysongglass
17 days ago
> When I said Telegram only has E2EE in internet debates, that means people like you who love to point out it's technically there, but who also fail to understand what it takes for such feature to be even used on a daily basis.
But you are being dishonest when you make an incorrect statement like this. Don't do that.
EDIT:
> makes you look like an astroturfer employed by Telegram: https://tsf.telegram.org/
I just read the linked page through: this is a request for volunteers to answer support questions for Telegram. How did you make the mental leap from a request for support volunteers to recruitment ad for astroturfers?
The content is lies. E.g.
https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple#are-cloud-chats...
Talks about "unique distributed architecture" which I have debunked here
https://security.stackexchange.com/a/243172
When people parrot those lies, they're being useful idiots, which Russia has used for ages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot Durov is trained in information warfare and propaganda https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/technology/once-celebrate... He knows what he's doing.
You've gone way off base here and have made a colorful array of unfounded accusations, including strongly hinting I must be part of an astroturfing brigade, that Secret Chats only available on mobile devices constitutes an intentional "backdoor", that I am a "useful idiot", that for the purposes of internet argumentation E2EE chats don't actually exist, etc.
What I asked you to do was to stop misrepresenting your own bizarre theories as fact and stop linking microblog posts and blog posts describing vulnerabilities of a completely rewritten protocol that have nothing to do with its current. That is dishonest and not a reasonable basis for any argument.
There are many ways of honestly portraying the problems of Telegram without resorting to false inventions, such as its immense problem of spam and ads and the fact that E2EE is not available across all devices and for group chats.
Yeah ok I reviewed some of your post history and figured this isn't the first time you're being called out for your opinions. You've been downvoted about this topic for the past several years. It's not even the first time we two are having this discussion. You obviously aren't someone who changes their mind when presented with arguments so it makes zero sense to continue. Take care my weird Russian oligarch defending Dane.
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