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Comment by IMTDb

7 days ago

I am not a specialist; but isn't that the most "green" policy ever ? I mean:

- Tariffs will increase the price of virtually everything -> By law of supply and demand; global trade and production will decrease, leading to less CO2 production

- This effect will be stronger for stuff coming from far away (little for Canda / Mexico; more for EU; huge for China). So companies will have a tendency to rely on local producer (even at a higher price). This again will lower transoceanic shipping. Other countries will probably retaliate so this effect will go both for inbound and outbound shipping. Again; less CO2 production

- More money for the government. There more stuff you buy, the more tariffs you pay, so rich pay more than poors. Which again is what green parties are looking for.

I might be very wrong about this; I am not a Trump supporter in any way - and to be honest I ma not a fan of green parties either - but my initial reaction is that if we look at the conclusion of the policies; the results are looking to align quite well. Of course the surrounding storytelling is extremely different; which puzzles me a bit.

Yes.

If you're into green policies, then tariffs are aligned with what you'd probably want, at least on some level. Though it's more complicated and by no means a slam dunk. One could say that producing things locally in more places is less efficient (lower economies of scale, etc.) which might result in more overhead per item, which might outweigh the extra transportation, etc. General assumption is that an unconstrained free market arrangement encourages system optimizing itself. But then there's a question what is it optimizing itself for, and that's definitely not ecological impact.

A change like that in a global economy has tons of non-linear effects, many of which it need to play over time, etc. Some changes are more easy to predict confidently, many not so much. But barely anyone argues from first principles, and its typically just tribal screeching on both sides.