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Comment by dilyevsky

16 days ago

what are you going to do when something suddenly doesn't work and cursor endlessly spins without progress no matter how many "please don't make mistakes" you add? delete the whole thing and try to one-shot it again?

Why do you HAVE TO one-shot? No one says you have to code like those influencers. You are a software engineer, use AI like one, iteratively.

  • >No one says you have to code like those influencers. You are a software engineer, use AI like one, iteratively.

    This is my issue with all the AI naysayers at this point. It seems to all boil down to "haha, stupid noob can't code so he uses AI" in their minds. It's like they are incapable of understanding that there could simultaneously be a bunch of junior devs pushing greenfield YouTube demos of vibe coding, while at the same time expert software engineers are legitimately seeing their productivity increase 10x on serious codebases through judicious use.

    Go ahead and keep swinging that hammer, John Henry.

    • > expert software engineers are legitimately seeing their productivity increase 10x

      It's funny you would say this, because we are really commenting on an article where a self-proclaimed "expert" has done that and the "10x" output is terrible.

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    • Weren't you the guy who only writes HTML? Maybe let domain experts comment on their domain of expertise.

    • My grievances are simple: an expert programming utilizing AI will be a truly dangerous force.

      But that's not what we get in this early stage of grifting. We get 10% marketing buzz on how cool this is with stuff that cannot be recreated in the tool alone, and 89% of lazy or inexperienced developers who just turn in slop with little or no iteration. The latter don't even understand the code they generated.

      That 1% will be amazing, it's too bad the barrel is full of rotten apples hiding that potential. The experts also tend to keep to themselves, in my experience. the 89% includes a lot of dunning-kruger as well which makes those outspoken experts questionable (maybe a part of why real experts aren't commenting on their experience).

    • “Maybe you didn’t hear me, I said ‘good morning steam driver, how are you?’”

  • The point is because it generally produces crap code you have to one shot or else iteration becomes hard. Similar to how a junior would try to refactor their mess and just make a bigger mess

    • I find it hard to believe that when the AI generates crap code, there is absolutely nothing you can do (change the prompt, modify context, add examples) to make it do what you want. It has not been my experience either. I only use AI to make small modules and refactor instead of one-shoting.

      Also I find "AI makes crap code so we should give it a bigger task" illogical.

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