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Comment by knowriju

14 days ago

Pretty sad that the rest of the world needs to pay for the extra tokens because of non-scientific american bias. This is also possibly a big point why countries/regions want sovereign LLMs which will propagate regional biases only.

I always like to ask these models who invented the airplanes, because a few countries have their own inventor... So in my opinion, it's a good way to check.

  • Very good. If the LLM has to express an opinion, it will have to be its own opinion (after the implementation of intelligence and judgement) - otherwise, it has to explicit the foundations of its statements (certainly not be the "hearsay machine" we have seen).

It's not a matter of «extra tokens»: it's that the fact, the "summary after the protocols", is what I wrote. It is the correct answer. It's what you should expect from a lucid speaker.

  • No. That disclaimer implies that there are other likely answers. The age of the earth is completely settled, and has been for a long time. Facts don't care about your feelings.

    • You misunderstand it completely, as it is not a matter of feelings. And it is not a disclaimer (which you apparently felt as a disclaimer).

      It is a matter of facts. The facts are, that that computation was performed by Patterson and refined by others. This is, as said, what a good reasoner will tell you.

      > implies that there

      Even if there had never been other attempts to answer that question, the "facts"¹ remains as stated: Patterson computed, followers refined. Without those specifications, the machine will be a "dumb believer" - a "minor". We will not ask for the machine's opinion until it will be intelligent. And when it will be intelligent, it will speak as I said.

      > completely settled

      Proper science does not work the way you seem to think it work.

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      ¹(And I mean "facts" the way I used it, not the way you used it. I meant "facts recorded as objective" - you meant "information you accepted to believe", which is of course very far from facts and may happen to be adherent to the state of things only by coincidence.)

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