Comment by simplify
14 days ago
> Why is that a problem to you?
Because seculars/athiests often believe that they're superior to the "stupid, God-believing religious" people, since their beliefs are obviously based on "pure logic and reason".
Yet, when you boil down anyone's value system to its fundamental essence, it turns out to always be a religious-like belief. No human value is based on pure logic, and it's annoying to see someone pretend otherwise.
> Someone is not good or bad because you agree with them
Right, that's what I was arguing against.
> Even a religious person can recognise that an atheist doing charitable work is being good
Sure, but for the sake of argument, I'm honing in on the word "good" here. You can only call something "good" if it aligns with your personal value system.
> The attitude you describe is wrong
You haven't demonstrated how. Could just be a misunderstanding.
People have value systems, yes. What's "boiling down" a value system?
You don't get to co-opt everybody as cryptically religious just because they have values.
"Boiling down" is taking something to its fundamental level. Breaking it down to the axioms, essentially.
And yes, when it comes to value systems, those axioms are cryptically religious.