Comment by evbogue
9 days ago
This vibes with my multiyear theory that Tesla self-driving is someone in China driving your car for you like a racing simulator. Perhaps the graphics are even game-ified so the work stays mysterious.
9 days ago
This vibes with my multiyear theory that Tesla self-driving is someone in China driving your car for you like a racing simulator. Perhaps the graphics are even game-ified so the work stays mysterious.
There's a car company that runs in vegas that does exactly that. You rent the car for a few hours and it will be driven up to you by a remote driver and then when you're done it'll drive off remotely. No AI needed.
Doesn't latency make this dangerous?
At a BAC of 0.08 (legal limit in US) drivers have reaction time delayed by only 60-120ms but crash risk is 10x compared to sober
Lack of depth perception probably compounds this?
Even 100ms slower reaction times doesn't put most people outside the normal range: https://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/133421/fnhum-09-0...
If that was too much, we wouldn't let people in their 50s drive.
> At a BAC of 0.08 (legal limit in US) drivers have reaction time delayed by only 60-120ms but crash risk is 10x compared to sober
I'm not sure that slower reaction times are the only effect of alcohol consumption.
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Have you seen the 'latency' of the average driver on the road these days?
Most people appear to take about 2 seconds to respond to any change in conditions.
> driven up to you by a remote driver
This is hopefully illegal and not actually what is done, because I have learned from Waymo that it is not permissible or even possible for the CS reps to remotely drive the car. They merely push "suggestion" commands to be considered by the onboard Waymo Driver.
Remote human drivers have too much latency and not enough realtime information available to "drive" a vehicle on public roads.
* https://halo.car/
* https://vay.io/
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If the drivers are local were looking at less than 100ms latency? Seems very doable. More worried about the system going down.
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You didn’t really think you were playing “Crazy Taxi” did you?
I hope that whoever operates these devices, is aware about it.
> So much of “ai” is just figuring ways to offload work onto random strangers.
https://xkcd.com/1897/ (2017)
Indeed, even legitimate "AI" is just human intelligence that's been macrodata-refined into a huge matrix of weights.
If you have ever manually labeled an image set for ML, it is not far from the truth of the process. =3
I'm not a data scientist but is that not a hotdog emoji?
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> someone in China driving your car for you like a racing simulator.
while sleeping and connected by NeuraLink. Before Musk/NeuraLink gets to me though, judging by the content of some of my dreams, i've been driving a space-folding spaceships for some aliens.
> This vibes with my multiyear theory that Tesla self-driving is someone in China driving your car for you like a racing simulator. Perhaps the graphics are even game-ified so the work stays mysterious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_Simulator
There were scenes from Black Panther in which Shuri drives a car in Korea remotely from Wakanda. I thought, wow, she can do that from thousands of km away with zero latency! They must have super advanced tech to have solved the network latency problem.
And important.
Very Ender's Game.