Comment by mrheosuper
5 days ago
> If a wifi password is required to make full use of the device, I will return it.
By that logic, you will not buy any "smart" devices
A camera doorbell, in your example, need wifi password so that it can stream video.
A smart lightbuld need wifi connection to change brightness or color.
Without wifi connection, it will lose a part of functionality
Philips Hue and many other similar smart light bulbs connects to my zigbee network with no Wi-Fi needed. It's remarkably simple to control them from Home Assistant, which I can run on a fully isolated home network. When my Internet gave out for two weeks (the perils of living in a forest) lots of stuff became inconvenient, but my smart light bulbs continued to work perfectly.
The point is not wifi. Wifi is just a protocol, like zigbee, or lora, etc.
Giving something wifi password is different from giving something internet access, they are not inclusive. You just add it to your local network without giving it internet access
In your case, does your smart bulb still have same functionality if you dont add it to your zigbee network ?
There are camera doorbells with PoE.
Thinking that through with PoE and Ethernet. Outside of MAC address white listing, how does one protect one's local Internet from being jacked in from the doorbell, externally?
Wired encryption and auth?
"MACsec (802.1AE) and EAPOL (802.1X)", https://forum.openwrt.org/t/macsec-802-1ae-with-802-1x-eapol...
So wrong.
There are protocols like zwave, zigbee, and possibly others that not only not need wifi passwords, they don't even need an IP address.
That's simply not true.
There are plenty of smart devices (including lighbulbs, sensor movements, and what not)t hat use bluetooh, or protocols like Zigbee that enable all kind of functionality without wifi password.
I believe he meant connectinon to the cloud of service provider.