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Comment by blitzar

5 days ago

Until america experiences the full consequences for their stupidity they will continue being stupid. Children get told 100's of times they will burn their hand if they touch the stove. In the best case scenario they touch it once anyway, with a responsible person nearby and then never again.

The sooner that happens the better for everyone it is.

OK, burning is happening right now, so mission accomplished, I guess? Are you sure people will learn from it? And who is the responsible person nearby in this reality?

> Children get told 100's of times they will burn their hand if they touch the stove. In the best case scenario they touch it once anyway, ...

That is not the best case. I never burned myself on a stove.

Also, this is not an individual Darwin problem like the stove example -- this has consequences for many bystanders who did know better, and many more bystanders who had no say in this.

  • > OK, burning is happening right now

    Nowhere near it, the hand is hovering near the fire - people are shouting "don't put your hand in the fire" and the kid is saying its nice and warm and see nothing bad has happened, I am going to put my hand right into the fire and it will be great.

    Trump term 1 they bailed out the Farmers for 20bn when they messed around on tarrifs and blew it up. They learn't that there are only two outcomes to fucking around 1) you win, 2) you find out and they give you 20bn.

    If those are your outcomes the only rational choice is to vote for Trump and cheer him on in fucking around as much as possible.

    Let them burn their hand.

  • beeforpork says >"That is not the best case. I never burned myself on a stove."<

    So you really have no idea! Sad!

    I suppose you have also never been hungry and bitten into a wonderful-smelling and -tasting hamburger only to find that a finger (yours, to be clear) is in the bite, and thus you become at one moment both ravenous attacker and fearful prey struggling to escape?

    Such experiences are part of life, to be embraced only afterward.

    • > beeforpork says >"That is not the best case. I never burned myself on a stove."< > So you really have no idea! Sad!

      Is this like "you're not a strong man unless you've been this stupid at least once"?

      Strong vs. weak does not seem like a desirable way to structure society. It's no fun. Yes, I also find football competitions really boring.

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Dismantling the current world hegemony might have a few unanticipated impacts. When little Timmy responds to burning his hand by evaporating the world economy we might not be so smug.

  • The smug little so-and-so here is the USA. Dismantling their hegemony and releasing the 95% of the world that are not Americans, I am looking forward to it with the same enthusiasm as MAGA chants "lock her up".

    • The problem is that dismantling their hegemony in too fast of a fashion will cause the rest of the world _a lot_ of trouble.