Comment by bluGill
12 days ago
Those plots are meaningless because countries measure things differently. Many countries for example don't count anyone before they are a year old while the US does. The US shows up very well for life expectancy, yes it costs a lot more to get there the outcomes of the US healthcare system are very good according to your own data (which as I said isn't good data, but it is data)
Honestly this has been extensively studied and the "the US gets shocking value for money and poor health outcomes" is the consensus. You can either take that as a personal insult, dig your heels in and say "the data is wrong" or "they're lying", blame immigrants or other things I've seen some Americans do when their "we're #1" belief is challenged ... or you can take notice and demand better from your country.
It is really of no consequence to me which you choose, I don't live there and it's looking likely I'll probably skip even visiting let alone consider moving there in future.
You changed your arrguement. You started with the us has terrible outtomes. When I refuted that you changed to value.
I am not desputing that we spend far too much for what we get. I am desputing the solution.
Relative to its peer nations it has terrible outcomes. If you think that I'm moving the goalposts and that you should instead be focussed on the fact that you are streets ahead of the developing world, rather than lagging behind your peers in the developed world then go right ahead. As I said, I'm just bringing you the facts - what you choose to do with them is on you.