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Comment by planb

4 days ago

What is wrong with OpenAI? The naming of their models seems like it is intentionally confusing - maybe to distract from lack of progress? Honestly, I have no idea which model to use for simply everyday tasks anymore.

It really is bizarre. If you had asked me 2 days ago I would have said unequivically that these models already existed. Surely given the rate of change a date-based numbering system would be more helpful?

I tend to look at the lmarena leaderboard to see what to use (or the aider polyglot leaderboard for coding)

Seems to me like they're somewhat trying to simplify now.

GPT-N.m -> Non-reasoning

oN -> Reasoning

oN+1-mini -> Reasoning but speedy; cut-down version of an upcoming oN model (unclear if true or marketing)

It would be nice if they actually stick to this pattern.

  • I suspect that "ChatGPT-4o" is the most confusing part. Absolutely baffling to go with that and then later "oN", but surely they will avoid any "No" models moving forward

  • But we have both 4o and 4.1 for non-reasoning. And it's still not clear to me which is better (the comparison on their page was from an older version of 4o).

  • Are the oN models built on top of GPT-N.m models? It would be nice to know the lineage there.