Comment by cube2222
4 days ago
Fingers crossed for this to work well! Claude Code is pretty excellent.
I’m actually legitimately surprised how good it is, since other coding agents I’ve used before have mostly been a letdown, which made me only use Claude in direct change prompting with Zed (“implement xyz here”, “rewrite this function with abc”, etc), so very hands-on.
So I’ve went into trying out Claude Code rather pessimistically, and now I’m using it all the time! Sure, it ends up costing a bunch, but it’s easy to justify $15 for a prompting session if the end result is a mostly complete PR, done much faster.
All that is to say - competition is good, fingers crossed for codex!
Claude Code has a closed license https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/LICENSE....
There is fork named Anon Kode https://github.com/dnakov/anon-kode which can use more models and non-Anthropic ones. But the license is unclear for it.
It's interesting to see codex to be Apache License. Maybe somebody extends it to be usable with competing models.
If it's a fork of the proprietary code, the license is pretty clear, it's violating copyright.
Now whether or not anthropic care enough to enforce their license is separate issue, but it seems unwise to make much of an investment in it.
They call it a "fork" but it doesn't share any code. It's from scratch afaik
In terms of terminal-based and open-source, I think aider is the most popular one.
yes! It's great! I like it!
But it has one downside: It's not so good on unknown big complex code bases where you don't know how it's structured. I wished they (or somebody else) would add an AI or an automation to add files dynamically or in a smart way when you don't know the codebase structure (with the expense of burning more tokens).
I'm thinking Codex (have not checked it yet), Claude Code, Anon Kode and all the AI editors/plugins doing a better job there (and potentially burning more tokens).
But that's the only downside I can think of about aider.
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I didn't like not seeing the reasoning of the models
Seconded. I was surprised by how good Claude Code is, even for less mainstream languages (Clojure). I am happy there is competition!
Fingers crossed for what?
I started using claude code everyday. It’s kinda expensive and hallucinates a ton (tho with custom prompt i’ve mostly tamed it).
Hope more competition can bring price down.
too expensive. I cant understand why everyone is into claude code vs using claude in cursor or windsurf.
I think it depends a lot on how you value your time. I'm personally willing to spend hundreds or thousands per month happily if it saves me enough hours. I'd estimate that if I were to do consulting, I'd likely be charging in the $150-250 per hour range, so by my math, it's pretty easy to justify any tools that save me even a few hours per month.
Or, increasingly, how the company values your time. If Claude Code can make a $100K/year dev 10% more productive, it's worth it to the employer to pay anything under $1600/month for it (assuming fully loaded cost of the employee to the business is twice salary).
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ok but in what way a terminal is a bettter UI than an IDE? I am trying all of them on a weekly basis and windsurf UX seems miles ahead/ more efficient than a terminal. that is also what OAI believes or else they wouldnt try to buy it
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Are you still working 40 hours a week? If so, what's the difference?
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You get the same results for cheaper by using a different tool (Windsurf's better imho).
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How do you price this in? If you’re charging by the hour, paying out of pocket to reduce your hours seems self-defeating unless you raise your rates enough to cover both the costs and the lost hours. I can’t imagine too many clients would accept “I’m very expensive per hour because I’m fast, because I get AI to do most of it.”
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> if it saves me enough hours
You're being paid to type? I want your job.
Claude Code has been able to produce results equivalent to a junior engineer. I spent about $300 API credits in a month but got the value out of it far surpassing that.
If you have AWS credits...
export CLAUDE_CODE_USE_BEDROCK=1
export ANTHROPIC_MODEL=us.anthropic.claude-3-7-sonnet-20250219-v1:0
export ANTHROPIC_API_TYPE=bedrock
Is this for Claude Code?
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and where are these export used? Ader?
Anecdotally, Claude code performs much better than Claude within Cursor. Not sure if it’s a system prompt thing or if I’ve just convinced myself of it because the aesthetic is so much better, but either way the end result feels better to me.
One has the incentive to burn through as much tokens and the other has an incentive to use as little as possible
My choice conspiracy is resource allocation and playing favorites.
I tried switching from Claude Code to both Cursor and Windsurf. Neither of the latter IDEs fully support MCP implementations (missing basic things like tool definitions and other vital features last time I tried) and both have been riddled with their own agentic flow issues (cursor going down for a week a bit ago, windsurf requiring paid upgrades to "get around" bugs, etc).
This is all ignoring the controversies that pop up around e.g. Cursor seemingly every week. As an IDE, they're both getting there -- but I have objectively better results in Claude Code.
that's what my Ramp card is for.
seriously though, anything that makes me smarter and more productive has a threshold in the thousands-of-dollars range, not hundreds
Why is using cursor with sonnet cheaper than using claude code?
probably because cursor is betting on many paying people not using their tool to full extend. Like people paying on their gym memberships but not going to the gym.
Or they are burning VC money.
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