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Comment by oofManBang

8 months ago

> Just enough to keep it without bacteria.

Bacteria (and certainly viruses) can survive 80 proof liquor. 1% alcohol is going to have very little sterilization effect.

It's not the alcohol that's supposed to kill bacteria, it's the long boil.

  • First of all, many types of beer were historically not boiled. Quite a few still aren't. The mash, however, pasteurizes the beer.

    That, however, doesn't last forever. In the conditions of the 18th century or whatever, microorganisms will get into the beer after mashing/boiling, so the heat treatment only helps for a while. The fermentation really does protect the beer afterwards, but it's a combination of low pH, alcohol, low oxygen, little nutrients, CO2, etc. Hops also help against gram-positive bacteria.

  • The boil does kill the bacteria, but it's not preserved after the boil. At best it's as sterile as water; at worse it spoils faster due to the abundance of nutrients.

    • That's why it's kept sealed, under pressure. I wouldn't fill a water bottle and let it sit for many months before drinking it ever today. A beer bottle with CO2 atmosphere can sit for a long time.

      There may be other reasons to prefer beer where the alcohol is relevant of course, just not for freshness. And freshness could absolutely have been relevant in the choice of drinks to load, together with low cost and acceptance in general.

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  • Yes and ancient Greeks and Romans already knew that boiling water somehow makes it safer to drink.

    Yet people continued wasting resources on time on making beer and similar drinks due to whatever reasons..