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Comment by kermatt

4 days ago

The term loyalty is dangerous for an employee.

Having seen companies of all sizes lay people off for the exact same reason - Returns did not match expectations - my personal perspective is to treat all employers the same.

No company with a balance sheet is loyal to employees. Keeping that idea in mind, and thus on an equal perspective, is healthy for both sides. "It's just business" is good advice and not just in movies.

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mystraline  4 days ago

I applied to a job in the 'Who's Hiring' thread this month.

Had an interview. I'm a professional good at my craft, with tenure at hard positions.

I get hit with "we don't just want someone who checks in does work and leaves, 9 to 5". Like, are you wanting 60h/week and pay 40h/week? Or is this you're not wanting a slacker?

Or better yet, since you want skin in the game on my side, what's my equity as a partner?

My understanding is that I shop up and work well, and you pay me. And I'm in an at-will employment state, so it really is 1 day at a time.

Loyalty is bought at 1 day increments, since that is all the loyalty is afforded to me.

However, I will definitely lie, since no recruiter or HR wants to admit that their candidate is here because you pay. Its the verboten secret everyone dances around.

  • kermatt  3 days ago

    > "we don't just want someone who checks in does work and leaves, 9 to 5"

    I do. I want people to work a normal day. The alternative is they run into a wall of fatigue at the worst times, and call out sick.

    I can plan a project around five 8 hour days a week. I can't plan around 60+ hours one week, and (unknown) hours some future week.

  • ivape  4 days ago

    That sounds disgusting. Thank you for sharing that. Why don't they just advertise "Over-time expected and over-time compensation provided"?