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Comment by kiitos

2 days ago

Directly following is question 4.3: "Are users always prevented from installing programs on end-user devices?"

Totally bonkers stuff.

A trend for corporate workstations is moving closer to a phone with a locked-down app store, with all programs from a company software repo.

Eliminating everything but a business's industry specific apps, MS Office, and some well-known productivity tools slashes support calls (no customization!) and frustrates cyberattacks to some degree when you can't deploy custom executables.

  • That's why this it's been a requirement for Australian government agencies for about 15 years.

    In around 2011, the Defence Signals Directorate (now the Australian Signals Directorate) went through and did an analysis of all of the intrusions they had assisted with over the previous few years. It turned out that app whitelisting, patching OS vulns, patching client applications (Office, Adobe Reader, browsers), and some basis permission management would have prevented something like 90% of them.

    The "Top 4" was later expanded to the Essential Eight which includes additional elements such as backups, MFA, disabling Office macros and using hardened application configs.

    https://www.cyber.gov.au/resources-business-and-government/e...

  • Then the users start using cloud webapps to do everything. I can't install a PDF-to-excel converter, so I'll use this online service to do it.

    At first glance that might seem a poor move for corporate information security. But crucially, the security of cloud webapps is not the windows sysadmins' problem - buck successfully passed.

  • I don’t think locking down slashes support calls because you will now receive support requests anytime someone wants to install something and actually have a good business reason to do so.

    • Consider the ones you don't get: ones where PCs have to be wiped from customization gone wrong, politics and productivity police calls - "Why is Bob gaming?", "Why is Alice on Discord?".

      It's about the transition from artisanal hand-configuration to mass-produced fleet standards, and diverting exceptional behavior and customizations somewhere else.

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This is standard practice for years in big corporations.

You install software via ticket requests to IT, and devs might have admin rights, but not root, and only temporary.

This is nothing new though, back in the timesharing days, where we would connect to the development server, we only got as much rights as required for the ongoing development workflows.

Hence why PCs felt so liberating.

  • It's a standard practice. And at $CURENT_JOB it's driven by semi-literate security folks, definitely not insurance.

    • Insurance and liability concerns drive the security folks.

      Just wait when more countries keep adopting cybersecurity laws for companies liabilities when software doesn't behave, like in any other engineering industry.

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