Comment by blibble
19 hours ago
I don't think it is a bad analogy
given how complicated the boot process is ([1]), and it occurs once a month, I'd rather it was as deterministic as possible
vs. shaving 1% off the boot time
[1]: distros continue to ship subtlety broken unit files, because the model is too complicated
Most systems do not have 5 minute POST times. That’s an extreme outlier.
Linux runs all over, including embedded systems where boot time is important.
Optimizing for edge cases on outliers isn’t a priority. If you need specific boot ordering, configure it that way. It doesn’t make sense for the entire Linux world to sacrifice boot speed.
I don't even think my Pentium 166 took 5 minutes to POST. Did computers ever take that long to POST??
Old machines probably didn't, no, but I have absolutely seen machines (Enterprise™ Servers) that took longer than that to get to the bootloader. IIRC it was mostly a combination of hardware RAID controllers and RAM... something. Testing?
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Look at enterprise servers.
Competing POST in under 2 minutes is not guaranteed.
Especially the 4 socket beasts with lots of DIMMs.
Physical servers do. It's always astounding to me how long it takes to initialise all that hardware.
Oh? What's an example of a common way for unit files to be subtlely broken?
See: the comment above and its folkloric concept of systemd as some kind of constraint solver
Unfortunately no one has actually bothered to write down how systemd really works; the closest to a real writeup out there is https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2020/05/02/0/