Comment by mytailorisrich
3 days ago
There is a big difference between being accused and going to trial. I agree that identities should not be published based only on "accusations".
There is a big difference between being caught in the act and charged following an investigation.
Currently Europe is moving/has moved to an extreme position beyond common sense as it has done on several other issues based on "good intentions".
In some cases there is also a pressure to charge and go to trial just based on accusations (e.g. rape cases), which is another issue.
You are still innocent at trial.
There's no good from this only figurative village mobs and witch hunts.
From my experience something culturally more common in the anglosphere too.
This is probably also an instance of a significant cultural difference. Continental Europe generally believes in rehabilitation, whereas the Anglosphere - and the US in particular - strike me more as having a vengeful justice system.
Public shaming of people at trial is incompatible with the belief in rehabilitation.
Shame of being convicted of a crime and rehabilitation are separate issues and this is not a cultural difference between continental Europe (which isn't even an homogeneous entity) and the "Anglosphere", either per se.
In Finland sentence can be reduced if the case has been publicized widely, i.e. the "shame" is seen as a punishment itself.
Being labeled as "a criminal" for sure hinders rehabilitation. It reduces opportunities and probably affects identity.
Based on how crime and offenders are publicly discussed in the US, it seems there's very little interest in rehabilitation, except if the person is of high status. Per my common sense the US culture is often just plain cruel with people revelling in others' suffering if they are labeled as "outsiders".
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A trial is held before any conviction.
What is the "common sense" here? My common sense can't see really any benefits from publicizing the information.
Don't you think that if it's in the name of the people that the people should have the right to know? Aren't trials public anyway?
If you are interested, you can go to the court to watch the proceedings or get the documents.
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You are still innocent at trial.
There's no good from this only witch hunts. Something more common more recently in the anglosphere too.