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Comment by m4x

2 days ago

The article says “the quantities of material were so small they were safe to eat”

If that’s true, the overreaction and evacuation is higher risk than possession of the elements

You can’t blame Lidden for the overreaction of others

> The article says “the quantities of material were so small they were safe to eat”

The question is did the authorities know that the materials were harmless in advance, or only after they acquired them?

  • They knew, or should have known. They knew exactly what he had bought and in what quantity, and anyone who knew anything about radioactive material would have concluded it was safe, or if they had doubts, they would have sent maybe two people to go knock on his door and ask to look around.

    This was someone or a small group inside the border force who didn't have a clue what they were doing, cocked up, tried to make a big showy scene of things, and then scrambled to save face after the actual experts clued them in that a) what he had was safe and b) was 100% legal to own. (note that he was prosecuted for something that the border force allowed through years before the sample they erroneously thought was a problem, and that was not illegal to own, only illegal under a very twisted interpretation of an obscure law to import).

    • Also, the question shouldn't be "Did they know it was harmless?" It should be "Did they know it was harmful?" You don't initiate a huge hazmat incident, close off homes and evacuate people just because "you're not sure it was harmless." You do that when you know it's harmful.

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  • They did know. It was well labelled and initially stopped at customs.

    They asked the ordinary courier (without hazmat gear) to deliver it in person to help build a stronger case.

    Details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0JGsSxBd2I

    The hazmat crew was literally manufactured drama for a prosecutor (who somehow continues not to be named in this ridiculous case) to build a better case.

    • Here you go:

      Sally Dowling SC - Director of Public Prosecutions New South Whales

      Frank Veltro SC - Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions New South Whales

      Helen Roberts SC - Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions New South Whales

      Ken McKay SC BAB - Senior Crown Prosecutor New South Whales

      Craig Hyland - Solicitor for Public Prosecutions New South Whales

      Anne Whitehead - Deputy Solicitor for Public Prosecutions (Legal) New South Whales

      Esther Kwiet - Deputy Solicitor for Public Prosecutions (Legal Operations) - New South Whales

      Natalie Weekes - Deputy Solicitor for Public Prosecutions (Operations) New South Whales

      Deborah Hocking - Deputy Solicitor for Public Prosecutions (Operations) New South Whales

      Joanna Croker - Deputy Solicitor for Public Prosecutions (Operations) New South Whales

      https://www.odpp.nsw.gov.au/about-us/leadership-team

      The current head of Fire and Rescue NSW is Jeremy Fewtrell.

      https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=135

  • They stopped it at the border, then let an ordinary courier deliver it. Either they knew it's harmless or they're intentionally criminally negligent.