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Comment by kranke155

8 months ago

The Portuguese Wikipedia does not allow the existence of details on corruption allegations against Portuguese or Brazilian politicians.

There are moderators who take care of cleaning those up, then starting harassment against users who have posted these things.

I've seen one particular page, when a corruption allegation was blown up against a politically connected individual, be set up for permanent deletion (the only way to remove a page so it can't be remade).

They have all the time in the world and its clearly a full time job for them to do this, so its very hard to deal with as an individual editor. Hence the result has been that the Portuguese wikipedia has very little information on the corruption of Portuguese politicians, while the English language is full of it.

I agree. The pages on Brazilian politics are often grotesque propaganda. There was even a famous case in which a slanderous and fraudulent edit on two journalists' pages was traced back to an IP address in Dilma's Presidential Palace (Dilma was Lula's hand-picked successor).

  • I saw horrendous violations to related to Bolsonaro related politicians. Seems like everybody does it then.

    In my case I saw that they even invent new rules if needed to remove things. Completely compromised.

Post some specific references. This happened to the Croatian Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation stepped in.

  • I am currently accumulating evidence to file the same kind of complaint that led the Croatian Wikipedia being reformed.

    But in order to do that you need X amount of edits. You also need strong evidence. There are other complaints for other Wikipedias in other languages that have become biased.

    You need to take into account that the Croatian Wikipedia had become a Holocaust denial website. That’s how far things had been allowed to slide.

    Just look into the fact that theyre is an article about ‘Super Dragões’ which is an ultra/hooligan mafia that runs the drug trade in Porto, Portugal. They’ve been involved in multiple murders, episodes of violence, and recently their leader was arrested.

    For some reason this article kept being altered/censored by two users, over literally months. They’ve successfully removed important details that link the leader of the group to an important murder (I assume they couldn’t do more).

    Every single major Portuguese org. Or political figure in Portugal is like this. You add things and then it’s a fight for months to get it to stick, if you’re lucky. Here a moderator clearly acted well, but they still managed to clean some of the detail.

    Or look at the article for Valentim Loureiro, where the major crimes are there, but it’s been removed that he was in fact convicted at least once. They clean up what they can.