Comment by spiderfarmer
3 months ago
Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok, and only some dedicated subset of fans are advocating for it. Meanwhile even my 97 year old grandfather heard about ChatGPT.
3 months ago
Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok, and only some dedicated subset of fans are advocating for it. Meanwhile even my 97 year old grandfather heard about ChatGPT.
I don't think that's true. There are a lot of people on Twitter who keep accidentally clicking that annoying button that Elon attached to every single tweet.
This.
Only on HN does ChatGPT somehow fear losing customers to Grok. Until Grok works out how to market to my mother, or at least make my mother aware that it exists, taking ChatGPT customers ain't happening.
They are cargoculting. Almost literally. It's MO for Musk companies.
They might call it open discussion and startup style rapid iteration approach, but they aren't getting it. Their interpretation of it is just collective hallucination under assumption that adults come to change diapers.
OpenAI was cofounded and funded by Musk for years before they released ChatGPT.
Grok could capture the entire 'market' and OpenAI would never feel it, because all grok is under the hood is a giant API bill to OpenAI.
https://www.supermicro.com/CaseStudies/Success_Story_xAI_Col...
Why would they need Colossus then? [0]
[0]: https://x.ai/colossus
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It is? Anyone have further information?
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I see more and more GROK used responses on X, so its picking up.
Why would anyone want to use an ex social media site?
From another AI (whatever DuckDuckGo is using):
> As of early 2025, X (formerly Twitter) has approximately 586 million active monthly users. The platform continues to grow, with a significant portion of its user base located in the United States and Japan.
Whatever portion of those is active are surely aware of Grok.
If hundreds of millions of real people are aware of Grok (which is dubious), then billions of people are aware of ChatGPT. If you ask a bunch of random people on the street whether they’ve heard of a) ChatGPT and b) Grok, what do you expect the results to be?
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Good grief, do not use LLMs to find this sort of statistic.
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That could be just an AI hallucination.
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most of them are bots. I guess their own LLMs are probably aware of Grok, so technically correct.
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Yeah.
I got news for you, most women my mother's age out here in flyover country also don't use X. So even if everyone on X knows of Grok's existence, which they don't, it wouldn't move the needle at all on a lot of these mass market segments. Because X is not used by the mass market. It's a tech bro political jihadi wannabe influencer hell hole of a digital ghetto.
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First mover advantage. This won't change. Same as Xerox vs photocopy.
I use Grok myself but talk about ChatGPT is my blog articles when I write something related to LLM.
That's... not really an advertisement for your blog, is it?
What else am I supposed to say?
First mover advantage tends to be a curse for modern tech. Of the giant tech companies, only Apple can claim to be a first mover -- they all took the crown from someone else.
Apple was a first mover many decades ago, but they lost so much ground around the lat 90s early 2000s, that they might as well be a late mover after that.
And Apple's business model since the 90s revolves entirely around not being the first mover.
Yes tech moves fast but human psychology won't change, we act on perception.
> Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok
And more and more people on the right side of the political spectrum, who trust Elon's AI to be less "woke" than the competition.
For what it’s worth, ChatGPT has a personality that’s surprisingly “based” and supportive of MAGA.
I’m not sure if that’s because the model updated, they’ve shunted my account onto a tuned personality, or my own change in prompting — but it’s a notable deviation from early interactions.
Might just be sycophancy?
In some earlier experiments, I found it hard to find a government intervention that ChatGPT didn't like. Tariffs, taxes, redistribution, minimum wages, rent control, etc.
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Don’t notice that personally at all.
not true, I know at least one right wing normie Boomer that uses Grok because it's the one Elon made.