Comment by 1659447091
7 months ago
>Statistically, there is significant violence against white farmers in South Africa. However, the counter to genocide is that the country's overall murder rate is among the highest in the world. The problem is because there's so many white farmers that it's skewing the data?... South Africa during no war has a murder rate of 45 deaths per 100,000 per year. One of the worsts in the world.
Are you suggesting that most of those murdered are white farmers?
The "Third Quarter 2024/2025 Crime Stats Presentation" [pdf] from South African Police Service Crime stats [0] show between: October 2024 to December 2024 there were 6953 Murders in RSA.[pg 8] and of those there were 12 victims linked to the "farm/small holding" community [pg 32]. 5 farm dwellers, 4 employees, 1 Farmer, 1 Security, & 1 not specified.
12 people linked to farms (but only 1 Farmer murdered) in the last quarter of 2024 in a place with some of the highest murder rates in the world -- does Not white farmer genocide make, nor is it "significant violence against white farmers". There were 68 total "contact crimes" committed in Rural communities; and 187,892 "contact crimes" for RSA in that time.
Contact crimes being violent crimes (and not counting sexual offenses or robbery)
The "we're doing so bad at preventing murder and not just white people are dying" is the worst defensive I've ever seen. It makes the numbers sus at best. How many murders go undiscovered when police are doing that bad of a job?
How many murders go undiscovered because police cant safely enter an area? The numbers are much worse than reported and when that's happening, that's usually a genocide.
What does that have to do with white farmers? Are you saying there are blockades in rural farm lands that prevent police from entering?
The stats don't even say if that one farmer was white black or any other color nor their sex. 5 of those 12, the employees/security killed, were most likely black, the farmer could have been as well. (same for the 4 dwellers if they were the employee's family that lives on the farm)
If you are claiming general genocide because many people kill other people for so many different reasons, that is not genocide. Considering how many women and children are killed due to domestic violence, maybe you can use the words femicide or filicide instead.