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Comment by I_am_tiberius

1 day ago

Does anyone know of a tool that can e2e + collaboration (or in other words: notion but e2e)?

Anytype. Local-first, p2p sync with e2ee. It uses the notion model (everything is an object, you can create "databases" with queries of objects). It doesn't store markdown directly I believe, but it can export into markdown perfectly.

I recently moved to anytype from logseq as it hit for me all the right notes for personal stuff, shared family stuff and work stuff.

I wanted something like notion but faster and most importantly, private.

We're building https://thymer.com/ to do this. Real-time collaboration, local-first + end-to-end-encrypted (and optionally self-hosted).

  • Cool. May I ask how you implement the collaborative e2e? Do you encrypt the content multiple times - once for every user?

    • The workspace data is encrypted with a (symmetric) workspace key. Each user gets hteir own encrypted copy of that key, using the user's public key. By wrapping the data-encryption key for each user the content is only encrypted once but each authorized user can decrypt it.

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