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Comment by sorcerer-mar

4 months ago

> Unfortunately when it comes to land use, we have a tendency to block overall uses rather than blocking the negative effects of those uses

Probably because history is full of developers promising to mitigate certain negative consequences and then failing to do so. I'm as YIMBY as anyone, so this history of developers being awful matters a lot to me: it galvanizes the opposition.

Do you have examples of this? Where has the negative effect been banned (presumably with suitable penalties) and then ignored?

I'm not that young but I have not seen examples of this.

  • What do you mean? It happens every day. Lots are upzoned based on VeryNiceIdea and then instead StupidBullshit gets built (so long as StupidBullshit fits into the same zoning scheme as VeryNiceIdea).

    • First, that's not an example of negative effects being banned and then developers getting around it.

      Instead you are saying that some people wanted a particular land use on a parcel, bet then a different land use showed up. Lots of VeryNiceIdea have nobody around to execute the idea and actually make it happen. When an abandoned lumberyard next to lots of homes in my area had a proposal for condos, neighbors were livid at the homes, and refused the zoning change. Instead people asked for a music center for senior citizens, but nobody stepped up to raise the money to build something like that.

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