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Comment by immibis

7 months ago

For those unaware, the "TACO trade" is when Wall Street investors trade based on the principle that "Trump Always Chickens Out". For example, buying in a tariff-induced dip on the principle that he'll probably repeal the tariffs.

Now that someone's said to Trump's face that Wall Street thinks he always chickens out, he may or may not stop doing it.

> Now that someone's said to Trump's face that Wall Street thinks he always chickens out, he may or may not stop doing it

The point is he’s powerless not to. The alternative is allowing a bond rout to trigger a bank collapse, probably in rural America. He didn’t do the prep that produces actual leverage. (Xi did.)

  • This was the most interesting thing I found during the past few weeks - even “The US President is the most powerful man in the world” can’t win a war against the bond market.

    • > even “The US President is the most powerful man in the world” can’t win a war against the bond market

      "You will not find it difficult to prove that battles, campaigns, and even wars have been won or lost primarily because of logistics" (D. D. Eisenhower).

      Trump did zero preparation for this trade war. It's still unclear what the ends are, with opposing and contradictory aims being messaged. We launched the war simultaneously against everyone. The formula used to calculate tariffs doesn't make sense. And Trump decided to blow out the deficit and kneecap U.S. state capacity at the same time he's negotiating against himself on trade.

      The U.S. President can take on the bond market. Most simply by taking the budget into surplus, thereby threatening its existence. But Trump didn't do that. He didn't even pretend he was going to do that. Instead, he's strategically put himself in a position where he has to chicken out, and it honestly seems like he's surrounded himself with people who are too high, drunk and/or stupid to see that. He's the poker player who shows up at the table, goes all in, looks at his cards and folds in one move.

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  • Can you expand on "probably in rural America"? Do you just mean that those smaller community banks are more at risk if rates rise? If so, because they issue more variable rate debt? Or is there something else?

    edit: grammar

    • > Do you just mean that those smaller community banks are more at risk if rates rise? If so, because they issue more variable rate debt? Or is there something else?

      Current issue is community banks have 3x the commercial real estate exposure of other banks [1]. They're also less liquid and have a lower ROA. So in cases where the shock comes from outside the financial sector, they tend to be the first we worry about.

      [1] https://www.fdic.gov/quarterly-banking-profile 33% vs 11% of total assets

  • Never assume a narcissist will take the sane way out when their game blows up in their face.

yeah, I thought the same thing. Steel tariff announcement is the first real test. Announcing the US Steel merger? / purchase? at the same time I think is part of the plan. I think he is going to stick this one out to prove them wrong. Would be interesting to see if TACO is even real, I could see someone on wall street opening a ton of puts, making the story up and then leaking the fake story to the reporter.

Mission accomplished.

And the reason why I said it is because 174 is part of Trump's Cut^3 bill from 2017. DOE 174.