Comment by NotAnOtter
6 days ago
I'm not saying that is a typical workflow. I'm saying A ~= B, and B ~= C.
A - normal, conventional senior dev work flow
B - A non-traditional but plausible senior dev workflow
C - Senior dev with LLM
I'm not claiming A = B = C, just that the step from one to another is relatively small when compared to something like a linter or other tool that accelerates development in some way.
> Which completely fails to address the point I am making.
If an LLM can do 20% more things than a junior dev can but also cannot do a different 20% of things a junior dev can, then the LLM is similar the a junior. And when comparing two juniors within a given field, it's entirely likely the above logic could apply. E.g. one junior may not be able to write SQL queries while the other does not understand the DOM. An LLM on the other hand is "kinda ok" at everything, but cannot engage in 'real' conversations about system architecture or reason through user experiences reliably. So it can do 20% more, and also 20% less. Just as a junior dev.
No one is claiming A = C, so don't keep punching the wind. They are claiming A ~= C.
> If an LLM can do 20% more things than a junior dev can but also cannot do a different 20% of things a junior dev can
This is not how it works. I am only punching wind because your arguments are as solid as air.
Comparing an LLM to a Junior Dev is like comparing a Secretary to an Answering Machine - both can technically answer calls, so they must be somewhat similar? What a load of hot, steaming bullshit.
> No one is claiming A = C, so don't keep punching the wind. They are claiming A ~= C.
And I am claiming that A != C. I was not even arguing against they are equal, I am arguing against them being similar in any way.
I maintain what I said before, I sincerely doubt the competence and experience in real life professional setting of anyone claiming LLMs are in anyway remotely similar to junior devs
> Comparing an LLM to a Junior Dev is like comparing a Secretary to an Answering Machine
The number of secretaries declines after answering machines became more prevalent.
You can keep throwing ad hominin if you think it's helping change reality. I wish we weren't headed this way, I really do, but we are. So we might as well confront reality. Catch you in 3 years when whatever happens - happens.
> The number of secretaries declines after answering machines became more prevalent.
Citation needed
> Catch you in 3 years when whatever happens - happens.
I wish I had 1 euro for whenever crypto shills told me those exact words regarding the inevitably of cryptocurrency replacing actual currency.
Note that I said 1 euro and not 1 of some shitcoint.