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Comment by 6LLvveMx2koXfwn

5 days ago

Unfortunately Capitalism unhindered by regulation is what we wanted, and Capitalism unhindered by regulation is what we have. We, in the western world, were in the privileged position of having a choice, and we chose individual profit over the communal good. I'm not entirely sure it could have been any other way outside of books given the fact we're essentially animals.

> Unfortunately Capitalism unhindered by regulation is what we wanted

No "we" don't want it. And those who do want it, let them go live in the early industrial England whete the lack of regulation degenerated masses.

Also, for some reason people still portray capitalism as being something completelky different with or without regulation, it's like saying a man is completelly different in a swimming swit and a costume.

> We, in the western world, were in the privileged position of having a choice, and we chose individual profit over the communal good

Again, "we" did not have a gathering a choose anything. Unless you have records of that zoom session.

> given the fact we're essentially animals.

This is a reductionist statement that doesn't get anywhere. Yes we are animals but we are more than that, similar to being quarks but also more than quarks.

  • Yes, "we" had the choice. Now nobody can afford homes and would ruin their life if they actually went ahead to demonstrate against the system for an extended period of time. We still have the choice, but nobody is willing to sacrifice their own wellbeing because its easier to live with the minimum, while we shoot billionaires to space.

    • I know what you're going for, but no, "we" didn't have a choice at all. A select few did, and they convinced many that it was a great idea. I am part of the we, and I did not choose this.

    • Except I argue that such a choice is emotional. And you captured the essence of what I was saying in other comment.

      And I am not sure but like, I have got this one life. Why can't I just be a good guy who wants to help others while still being in the system.

      Why do I have to suffer for other peoples decision and have to bear the mental responsibility to.

      Nobody's perfect. Neither do I intend to be. We are all gonna die. I just want to leave my community a little bit more charming place. Not bring revolution.

      I can't escape the system because this thought terrifies me. It terrifies me because you have to pick your battles wisely. I won't leave my coding job because of llms.

      Instead if I am really feeling like trying do good. I can donate extensively and live a frugal life for some time and donate to people who are dying due to hunger and such

      And I would still have the freedom to go back at any I stant and stop donating.

      The same can't be said about leaving a job. Its hard to reenter

      I am not sure lol. But I would much rather build stuff that I like with llms and then donate instead of the project not existing or taking way longer time imo

I think it is not so much about capitalism, but about the coupling of democracy with money. Money -> Media/Influencers -> election -> corruption -> go back to 1. To make a meaningful change, the society must somehow decouple democracy from money. With current technology it shall be possible to vote directly for many things instead of relying on (corrupt, pre-bread) representatives. Something like democracy 2.0 :)