Comment by throw8393949
5 days ago
> net negative to the total population, without developer questioning their role in it.
I am tired of people blaming bottom developers, while CEOs get millions for "the burden of responsibility".
5 days ago
> net negative to the total population, without developer questioning their role in it.
I am tired of people blaming bottom developers, while CEOs get millions for "the burden of responsibility".
I'm not blindly blaming the bottom developer. I've played my role in past waves as well as many other developers. I'm not a CEO, so I don't know how to communicate this same message to a CEO. But as a developer, I know I've been an ignorant participant in the past. Willfully or not. And I can change my role in the next coming wave.
We developers are not blameless. If we accept that we are playing a role; then we can be proactive in preventing this and influencing the direction things go. CEOs need developers to achieve what they want.
I'm not saying it's easy. I won't even hold it against folks that decide to go in a separate direction than mine. But I at least hope we can be open about the impact we each have; and that we are not powerless here.
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This sounds like the "only following orders" argument.
_If_ developers _collectively_ were to quit jobs that don't line up with their morals and ethics, we _might_ see a change. I'm not saying this is an easy decision to make, and I definitely don't want to judge someone who decides to take a higher paying job, but there's potential here to shift the direction AI is taking.
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Yes CEOs are to blame, but blaming them isn't gonna do anything. They won't change. Who has the motivation and capacity to change things? The working people. Who isn't currently doing it? The working people. So it seems appropriate for me to raise this fact as a problem, the fact that the working people silently go along with all the evil plans ceos put in place
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> They already pay taxes preciselly for this purpose!
That gets you employees, but if you've ever hired employees in a private business before you'll know that you have to carefully babysit them or they'll go off and do their own thing. The employees you hire for government are not a different type of creature. The same applies there. Even where there is genuine care to serve your interests as their employer, it is impossible for them to be mind readers. As their employer, your active engagement is an imperative. If you don't literally sit down with them on a regular basis and discuss what needs to be done, you're going to get poor results.
Which is what the parent comment is asserting: That the working people are not acting as the employer. Maybe you're right that the working people don't have the capacity to be the boss, but then what are they arbitrarily hiring employees for?
Organized working people have the capacity to change everything. That's my opinion at least
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> DEI is a billion dollar industry. With bad scores company wont get loans and contracts.
Respectfully, do you exist on 2023? This hasn't been true in the US (where the majority of HN lives) since Trump took office.