Comment by mikeshi42
2 days ago
First off, always really excited to hear from our production users - glad to hear you're getting good value out of the platform!
HyperDX isn't being deprecated, you can probably see on the marketing page it's still really prominently featured as an integral part of the stack - so nothing changing there.
We do of course want to get users onto HyperDX v2 and the overall ClickStack pattern. This doesn't mean HyperDX is going away by any means - just that HyperDX is focused a lot more on the end-user experience, and we get to leverage the flexibility, learnings and performance of a more exposed ClickHouse-powered core which is the intent of ClickStack. On the engineering side, we're working on making sure it's a smooth path for both open source and cloud.
side note: weird I thought I replied to this one already but I've been dealing with spotty wifi today :)
Still confused where HyperDX ends and where ClickStack starts.
Is HyperDX === ClickStack?
Is ClickStack = HyperDX + something closed source?
Is ClickStack just a cloud version of HyperDX?
Is it same thing, HyperDX, rebranded as ClickStack?
This is good feedback to make things more clear :) HyperDX is part of ClickStack, so ClickStack = { HyperDX, ClickHouse, OTel }. This is the stack we recommend that will deploy in seconds and _just work_, and can scale up to PB+ and beyond as well with some additional effort (more than a few seconds unfortunately, but one day...)
HyperDX v2, the version that is now stable and shipped in ClickStack, focuses more on the querying layer. It lets users have more customization around ClickHouse (virtually any schema, any deployment).
Optionally, users can leverage other ways of getting data into ClickHouse like Vector, S3, etc. but still use HyperDX v2 on top. Previously in HyperDX v1 you _had_ to use OTel and our ingestion pipeline and our schemas. This is no longer true in v2.
Let me know if this explanation helps
What's your opinion on OTel when trying to keep things small and performant? I've got some experience working with OTel the last few years, and I'm a bit afraid of the expanding scope and complexity compared to "simpler", more targeted solutions, like for instance Vector.
I'm just asking because you mention OTel and "other ways" in your post, and you must have a good overview over the options and where the market is headed.
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I'm also a bit confused. I'm using HyperDX cloud and sending telemetry directly from NextJS. What's the benefit of using ClickStack compared to HyperDX cloud?
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