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Comment by demosthanos

6 months ago

Level playing field for whom? Who does incentivizing R&D disadvantage?

Restaurants weren't competing with R&D-heavy corporations in any way. R&D-heavy corporations competed with each other, on a level playing field where all of them can build new stuff without having to pay taxes on negative income in their early years.

The only change this has made is un-level the playing field in favor of old, established corporations that already have the revenue streams in place to fund their new R&D projects.

> Who does incentivizing R&D disadvantage?

Taxpayers who end up with the bill and every company is competing for workers, office space, etc. Incentives across decades shift what people study, what business get created, etc. R&D sounds great abstractly, but it’s not some panacea where unlimited funding results in pure gains.

The economy is generally more efficient without central planning, and dumping money into anything that can be classified as R&D is simply inefficient.

  • > every company is competing for workers, office space, etc

    My company is all-remote and none of us would work for a company that isn't doing R&D. Most of an entire profession now has to be amortized over 5 years.

    > The economy is generally more efficient without central planning

    The old tax code isn't "central planning", it just had the very reasonable property that the government wouldn't force you to pay taxes on a loss.

    This scenario [0] is now possible. It wasn't before. That is a catastrophic level of stupidity, and you can't justify it with invisible-hand nonsense.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44204353

    • > none of us would work for a company that isn't doing R&D

      So you’d just be unemployed for the rest of your lives? That’s a possible edge case not worth adjusting the tax code for, but it seems unlikely.

      > wouldn't force you to pay taxes on a loss.

      R&D is an investment, you only pay taxes if the rest of the company is profitable.

      If your company is spending 1M / year on R&D and not adding 800k in long term value then in theory you’d be correct. But at that point you either aren’t doing R&D, or are doing such a poor job of it that the government shouldn’t be encouraging that activity.

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  • It sounds like you’re talking about government funding of research? This is about private companies funding the costs of making product ideas into actual sellable products.

  • > The economy is generally more efficient without central planning

    Big fat "citation needed" there. I know you chose the term "central planning" to try to invoke the communism boogeyman, but overall, free markets do not exist, and have never existed. Governments constantly use various levers (taxation being one of them) to encourage or discourage certain kinds of business activity. This is nothing new, and I find it laughable to suggest that this kind of thing should be done away with entirely.

    • There’s a lot of evidence for this outside of communism. Housing markets for example are a clear example of economic inefficiency created by subsides. But you also see problems with farm subsidies, flood insurance, and a host of other related issues.

      Markets operate on revealed preferences, which is just a massive advantage in terms of giving people what they want. There’s definitely a role for governments in economies around information asymmetry, safety, etc, but allocation of resources specifically doesn’t work well.