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Comment by leakycap

7 days ago

Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning.

This was design-focused because skin-deep was all they accomplished.

There were a ton of tweaks across their ecosystem that I think are great. What I would truly have preferred, however, is a feature freeze and bug fix while Apple Intelligence improves…

When they announced Apple Intelligence, I had hopes that it would come with Siri supporting more languages.

These features, that duck taping llm as parent comment says looks nice but not when your language isn't supported. 13 years pass by since Siri was introduced and I still can make use of it beyond setting timers and managing music playback.

They did still have a lot of AI features, just not AI chat.

Users can now use AI in Shortcuts, developers can use the various on-device models, I assume the call and text screening uses AI. Those are a few things off the top of my head. We need to some thinking the start and end for AI is a text field with a submit button.

  • The AI features they promised 1 year ago are still not here. And they are not even close to shipping it. End of story as far as i’m concerned.

    But yes, it is nice to see some incremental AI improvements with suggestions in various apps, etc. Better than nothing.

    • To be fair, they did say it was going to be a decade long arc to move to more AI stuff.

      We have a lot of other options for generic AI chat, so I’d rather them get it right than rush out something that isn’t any good.

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A company with thousands of developers can focus on multiple things at once. I'm happy they are trying to improve all parts of the operating system and not just AI features I personally will never use.

only concerning if you have major investments in apple, and rely on ai hype to drive the stock up. I don't know if it's because I watch so much sports but to see someone fall behind doesn't really make me believe they lack the ability to catch up

  • I don't want the AI features, either -- but I do want a company that can deliver on what they promise.

    Apple has fallen behind before; I don't doubt they can recover I just hope it's a good Apple that we get to live with on the other side of what they're going through.

    Apple of the last few years hasn't been consumer or developer friendly; their privacy promise being one of the big standouts in their favor.

> Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning.

Either concerning or reassuring depending on your perspective. I for one will be glad if there's a platform left that hasn't been invaded by AI.

  • I wouldn't find the company's inability to deliver on their own top priorities something to take a sigh of relief about.

    What internal issues is a company like this also failing to deliver? A problem like this doesn't come about in isolation.

  • > I for one will be glad if there's a platform left that hasn't been invaded by AI.

    There's always Linux! ;)

> because they're currently flailing and so behind

...behind what? Siri doesn't have a meaningful competitor on iOS. Nothing else even has access to my personal data.

  • As far as I know, Siri cannot (by Apple's design) have a competitor on iOS.

    Unless you consider unlocking your phone, opening an app like Amazon, and tapping a microphone to talk to Alexa as a fair access for competition.

    • Sure, but that raises the question of what siri is falling behind if nobody else can fill that void.

      Now I haven't owned an android in many years, but I haven't heard a peep from google about how they're using AI to improve their basic apps.

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