Comment by smikhanov
6 months ago
Prediction: there won’t be any AI systems repairing cars before there will be general intelligence-capable humanoid robots (Ex Machina-style).
There also won’t be any AI maids in five-star hotels until those robots appear.
This doesn’t make your statement invalid, it’s just that the gap between today and the moment you’re describing is so unimaginably vast that saying “don’t worry about AI slop contaminating your language word frequency databases, it’ll sort itself out eventually” is slightly off-mark.
It blows my mind that some folks are still out here thinking LLMs are the tech-tree towards AGI and independently thinking machines, when we can't even get copilot to stop suggesting libraries that don't exist for code we fully understand and created.
I'm sure AGI is possible. It's not coming from ChatGPT no matter how much Internet you feed to it.
Well, we won't be feeding it internet - we'll be using RL to learn from interaction with the real world.
LLMs are just one very specific application of deep learning, doing next-word-prediction of internet text. It's not LLMs specifically that's exciting, it's deep learning as a whole.
I don't understand the obsession with humanoid robots that many seem to have. Why would you make a car repairing machine human-shaped? Like, what would it use its legs for? Wouldn't it be better to design it tailored to its purpose?
Economies of scale. The humanoid form can interact with all of the existing infrastructure for jobs currently done by humans, so that's the obvious form factor for companies looking to churn out robots to sell by the millions.
Can, but an insectoid form factor and much smaller size could easily be better. It's not so common that being of human size is an advantage even where things are set up to allow for humans.
Consider how chimney sweeps used to be children.
Not only that but if humanoid robots were available commercially (and viable) they could be used as housemaids or for.. companionship if not more. Of course, we're entering SciFi territory but it's long been a SciFi theme.
They want a child.
Legs? To jump into the workshop pit, among other things. Palms are needed to hold a wrench or a spanner, fingers are needed to unscrew nuts.
Cars are not built to accommodate whatever universal repair machine there could be, cars are built with an expectation that a mechanic with arms and legs will be repairing it, and will be for a while.
A non-humanoid robot in a human-designed world populated by humans looks and behaves like this, at best: https://youtu.be/Hxdqp3N_ymU
This is such a bad take that I have a hard time believing it's not just trolling.
Really, a robot which could literally have an impact wrench built into it would HOLD a SPANNER and use FINGERS to remove bolts?
Next I'm expecting you say self-driving cars will necessarily require a humanoid sitting in the driver's seat to be feasible. And delivery robots (broadly in use in various places around the world) have a tiny humanoid robot inside them to make the go.
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More and more, cars are not built with repair in mind. At least not as a top priority. There are many repairs that now require removal of substantial unrelated components or perhaps the entire engine because the failed thing is just impossible to reach in situ.
Nuts and bolts are used because they are good mechanical fasteners that take advantage of the enormous "squeezing" leverage a threaded faster provides. Robots already assemble cars, and we still use nuts and bolts.
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